What women (don't) want.

[gary1979666]

I'll answer this.

He takes them by force, or he has to rely on your goodwill.

I wonder how many examples there are of women taking power away from men by force...

or swaps them for something.......boobies?

[feral chile]

I'll answer this.

He takes them by force, or he has to rely on your goodwill.

I wonder how many examples there are of women taking power away from men by force...

I presume you mean physical force and not persuasion/coercion/psychological techniques?

What about influence ad persuasion?

[feral chile]

or swaps them for something.......boobies?

I don't think we'd better g down the erotic capital route. only midnight knows anything about this, and she's distinctly unimpressed.

[eFestivals]

what if I don't want any of your sweeties

or how about we discuss sharing them

or maybe you earned them and deserve them

how many variables do you want?

If you don't want any sweeties, i'll keep all the sweeties and you'll have nothing.

You can discuss all you like. I'm still saying 'no'.

"deserve" is no part of equality.

How many squirrels have you got before you can answer the very simple question I've posed you?

Or is vacuous trolling all you have?

[eFestivals]

I'll answer this.

He takes them by force, or he has to rely on your goodwill.

I wonder how many examples there are of women taking power away from men by force...

Yep, spot on russy.

Tho of course the state - controlled by men - has the monopoly on state-sanctioned violence - controlled by men - so unless the sweetie wanters can raise a bigger army, they're fucked.

[eFestivals]

no more vacuous than your pointless example of power...a bag of sweeties

Child birth.... care to comment?

we've done the childbirth thing already, and you couldn't answer that one either tony.

Do you have any further squirrels to use to avoid a very simple question about power distribution?

[russycarps]

I presume you mean physical force and not persuasion/coercion/psychological techniques?

What about influence ad persuasion?

Persuasion still requires the act of giving away though.

[feral chile]

Yep, spot on russy.

Tho of course the state - controlled by men - has the monopoly on state-sanctioned violence - controlled by men - so unless the sweetie wanters can raise a bigger army, they're fucked.

so...these sweeties,,,they're everything in the world then, are they? and the other has nothing to bargain with?

Because why did women get the vote then? What was in it for men?

[feral chile]

Persuasion still requires the act of giving away though.

in return for...?

[eFestivals]

bully for you

and tough shit on you.

Anyway tony, now that you've concluded that women want nothing men have, you can safely conclude that women want a cat to stroke and facebook to put the pictures on.

Edited March 6, 2015 by eFestivals

[eFestivals]

so...these sweeties,,,they're everything in the world then, are they? and the other has nothing to bargain with?

A bargain can only be stuck if you have something to bargain with.

But you don't, because men have (had, back t6hen) legal ownership of everything, even your own very soul.

But if you had something to bargain with, even then you get nothing unless the men permit you to have it.

Because why did women get the vote then? What was in it for men?

Do you not know the answer? I thought you had all the answers and men had nothing women want.

[eFestivals]

When was the child birth brought up? I missed it... ever so sorry.

Was it agreed that women have control over it when they wish?

so just trolling then tony, I'm glad we've sorted that out. Do you want a minute to say your goodbyes?

Oh look what power can do. Can you persuade me and stop me?

[feral chile]

A bargain can only be stuck if you have something to bargain with.

But you don't, because men have (had, back t6hen) legal ownership of everything, even your own very soul.

But if you had something to bargain with, even then you get nothing unless the men permit you to have it.

Do you not know the answer? I thought you had all the answers and men had nothing women want.

I can't remember, I think it was expedient for some reason. I know it was difficult to argue that women couldn't so what men could, after they'd had to do precisely that. There was more to it than that thugh, I cn't remember what.

If men had everything already, why would they relinquish it?

Edited March 6, 2015 by feral chile

[eFestivals]

and a bargain is an exchange - so women end up with nothing extra than they started with.

[eFestivals]

If men had everything already, why would they relinquish it?

according to you, they wouldn't, they're all w*nkers whose only purpose is to stamp on women. So you said.

But what you said doesn't match the facts of history, so what you said can't be right.

[eFestivals]

really...??

yes tony, you really do have a brain the size of a pea.

Edited March 6, 2015 by eFestivals

[feral chile]

according to you, they wouldn't, they're all w*nkers whose only purpose is to stamp on women. So you said.

But what you said doesn't match the facts of history, so what you said can't be right.

No I didn't say that!

it wasn't me who said women are dependent on men not to rape them.

ffs.

[feral chile]

it's been said repeatedly in here, I'm not sure who by, but not me, that men hold all the power so shy would they give it up, women have nothing to offer and no force to etilise.

So why did men give women the vote then, if women weren't in a position to demand it and win the right to vote?

It's not a trick question. What changed?

[gary1979666]

Right, sweeties...

Take em

Ignore em

Barter them

Guilt em off you - you see me giving my sweeties away in my country and face pressure to do the same

Persuade em off you - i.e. you don't need all the sweeties.

Trick you

Cut a hole in your bag (metaphor?) and steal em

[eFestivals]

it wasn't me who said women are dependent on men not to rape them.

but women are.

And yet if men have that power, why don't they use it?

[feral chile]

Right, sweeties...

Take em

Ignore em

Barter them

Guilt em off you - you see me giving my sweeties away in my country and face pressure to do the same

Persuade em off you - i.e. you don't need all the sweeties.

Trick you

Cut a hole in your bag (metaphor?) and steal em

tell you sweeties are bad for you (which might be true)

[feral chile]

but women are.

And yet if men have that power, why don't they use it?

You tell me. Maybe because our social norms consider it abhorrent?

maybe because men would prefer a willing partner?

Edited March 6, 2015 by feral chile

[eFestivals]

it's been said repeatedly in here, I'm not sure who by, but not me, that men hold all the power so shy would they give it up, women have nothing to offer and no force to etilise.

So why did men give women the vote then, if women weren't in a position to demand it and win the right to vote?

It's not a trick question. What changed?

Some have said men have all the power, and that's because facts prove that men have all the power.... unless you have an answer to that bag of sweeties dilemma?

I might have asked you the question "why would men give it up?" It's only you that has said "men wouldn't give it up".

There is no trick question. There is only poor thought.

Try harder.

[eFestivals]

Right, sweeties...

Take em

Ignore em

Barter them

Guilt em off you - you see me giving my sweeties away in my country and face pressure to do the same

Persuade em off you - i.e. you don't need all the sweeties.

Trick you

Cut a hole in your bag (metaphor?) and steal em

Non-violent means cannot work without me granting you the sweeties.

Violent means can only work if you can raise a bigger army than the male-controlled state.

It looks like you're a bit fucked, and can't get the sweeties unless the nasty man says so. Yes?

[feral chile]

yep, there are plenty of options

ask why one person has all the sweeties, whether they really deserve all the sweeties, whether we want the sweeties, or whether they can keep the sweeties while I go off and get some cake.