Football 2015/16

[ThomThomDrum]

TBF this is coming from Marca so I don't think the pinch of salt is 100% required

[kaosmark2]

Ashley says he regrets getting involved in football.

Not half as much as the Newcastle fans do.

[TheGayTent]

Lanzini has officially signed his permanent contract - excellent news. 

[mrtourette]

20 hours ago, kaosmark2 said:

Hoping Palace will get drawn in, but they have a fairly hefty points total in comparison. They probably only need 4 points before the end of the season.

If that. I can't see both Sunderland and Newcastle getting seven and eight points respectively from eight games to draw level with Palace as they are now. Not to mention that they have 18 goals on Newcastle with regards to goal difference.

[jackarmy]

17 hours ago, kaosmark2 said:

I'm counting wide players amongst that. Shelvey is more of a sitting distribution mid, but he's still attacking rather than tempo-controlling.

From the 2.5 seasons I had of watching Shelvey, I would say his best role is actually as the "number 10" as an attacking midfield. Yes he can sit further back and try to ping his Hollywood balls, but ideally I would want him further up the pitch where his passes can cause more damage to the opposition, and less to his own team...

[kaosmark2]

19 minutes ago, mrtourette said:

If that. I can't see both Sunderland and Newcastle getting seven and eight points respectively from eight games to draw level with Palace as they are now. Not to mention that they have 18 goals on Newcastle with regards to goal difference.

Can see 8 points appearing, but can also see them not. Also, with both to face Norwich and villa, there's less chance for all teams to catch up. They really don't need much. 

[kaosmark2]

19 minutes ago, jackarmy said:

From the 2.5 seasons I had of watching Shelvey, I would say his best role is actually as the "number 10" as an attacking midfield. Yes he can sit further back and try to ping his Hollywood balls, but ideally I would want him further up the pitch where his passes can cause more damage to the opposition, and less to his own team...

Hence my classing him as an attacking mid. He's certainly not defensive. 

That said, his best contributions for Newcastle so far have been Hollywood balls, but Bright moments don't make a 12m player. 

[jackarmy]

Just now, kaosmark2 said:

Hence my classing him as an attacking mid. He's certainly not defensive. 

That said, his best contributions for Newcastle so far have been Hollywood balls, but Bright moments don't make a 12m player. 

Aye, misread your post there!

There's a top quality player in there, but he does have a tendency to go missing for spells in games, which frustrates him, and he ends up hitting some awful shot from outside the box (saw some of this on Sunday). I've got no doubt he's saving his first Newcastle goal for when you play Swansea on the 16th April... 

[kaosmark2]

Having quality and showing it are very different things. He needs to learn that.

[eastynh]

On 21/03/2016 at 1:12 PM, pink_triangle said:

I think you would have to explain the city transfer policy to make a full analysis. Someone earlier said he wasn't in charge of transfers, yet you say he has chosen players. Is it some sort of committee like Liverpool? 

While we agree that Demichelis and Bony aren't ideal candidates to be playing, that's not purely down to tactics and selection. Its still down to recruitment, because why don't city have significantly better players in the squad so they don't need to play these players? Why do city have a decent first 11, but then fall apart when they lose key players? I have looked at their bench at times this seasons and its been threadbare for one of the richest clubs in world football.  Why is a club that is building towards being an elite club regressing in strength of squad.  When they won the league first they had Aguero, Balotelli, Dzeko and Jovetic,, now they have Bony as the backup.  As I have said despite their wealth they haven't bought a top centre back since Kompany, yet have spent big amounts in trying. Whoever is scouting and making final decisions (whether manager or above) really are failing in the transfer market and city are paying the price.

Sorry for the late reply mate, I have been mad busy and just popping in the Glasto chat on my phone.

The main man responsible for transfers is Txiki Begiristain. He was brought in to replicate what was achieved at Barca. He is Peps mate and they worked successfully at Barca together (as well as playing in the Barca team together) for many years. The general consensus is that the initial plan was to bring in Pep 3 years ago. Unfortunately for them we had Mancini at that time. There was animosity between Mancini and Txiki from the off. Before they could find a valid reason to remove Mancini, Pep had gone Bayern. It is reported that Pep had agreed to move to City after his spell in Munich, 3 years ago. That season then pretty much fell to pieces and Pellegrini was lined up as a stop gap till Pep came.

In regards to transfers, Txiki is the man in charge. If we are going to be honest here, his record in the transfer market while at City has been utterly woeful. He should not escape criticism and his whole reputation has hinged on being able to attract Pep to City, Pellegrini has picked a few of his mates in Demichelis and Willy.

Regardless of the transfers though, Pellegrini has pretty much had the best squad in the premier league at his disposal, during his tenure. I don't want to keep banging the drum in regards to my opinion of Pellegrini as I have made my thoughts pretty clear. The sooner he leaves the better and I think the vast vast majority of City fans are in agreement over that.

 

[pink_triangle]

27 minutes ago, eastynh said:

 

In regards to transfers, Txiki is the man in charge. If we are going to be honest here, his record in the transfer market while at City has been utterly woeful. He should not escape criticism and his whole reputation has hinged on being able to attract Pep to City, Pellegrini has picked a few of his mates in Demichelis and Willy.

 

I agree with Marcotti that now he has done his job and brought in his mate, he should be sent out of the door.  Theres no evidence he excels in the transfer market.  To me its not just the people he has brought in, but the age profile of the squad he has accumulated.

[thetime]

Like many I am intrigued how pep is going to get on at city.

He had the golden generation and messi at barca and Munich were already treble winners, Basically will be starting from base level with city. 

[eastynh]

2 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

I agree with Marcotti that now he has done his job and brought in his mate, he should be sent out of the door.  Theres no evidence he excels in the transfer market.  To me its not just the people he has brought in, but the age profile of the squad he has accumulated.

Unfortunately mate there is no chance. Ferran Sorriano is the CEO and big mates of both Pep and Txiki Begiristain. We will have at least 3 years of all of them,

[eFestivals]

Adam Johnson - 6 years.

WOW!

[eFestivals]

Just now, eFestivals said:

Adam Johnson - 6 years.

WOW!

without getting into the rights and wrongs and not looking to defend this sentence, that seems very excessive alongside the sorts of sentences handed out for other sex crimes of greater gravity.

[zahidf]

3 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

without getting into the rights and wrongs and not looking to defend this sentence, that seems very excessive alongside the sorts of sentences handed out for other sex crimes of greater gravity.

deterrence factor/role model/pleaded not guilty/was premiditated.

 

i read somewhere 10 years was the maximum sentence for his crimes. he can be out in 3 with good behaviour

[eFestivals]

9 minutes ago, zahidf said:

deterrence factor/role model/pleaded not guilty/was premiditated.

 

i read somewhere 10 years was the maximum sentence for his crimes. he can be out in 3 with good behaviour

then I guess that really only says how rarely sentences might get that high.

I was expecting something less based on sentences for other sex crimes, and I'd guess he was too ... so I suspect there'll be an appeal over the sentence.

Edited March 24, 2016 by eFestivals

[TheGayTent]

Johan Cruyff - what a player 

[eFestivals]

3 minutes ago, TheGayTent said:

Johan Cruyff - what a player 

Yep. Remember watching the '74 WC and being mesmerised.

Not a name that will quickly be forgotten.

[ThomThomDrum]

I will always think of this............ ingrained in the memory 

[modey]

1 hour ago, eFestivals said:

Adam Johnson - 6 years.

WOW!

Big difference to what the female teacher did, groomed and slept with a15 year old boy 50 times and got a suspended sentence !

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/11898495/Schoolboy-reveals-he-slept-with-teaching-assistant-more-than-50-times-and-that-she-claimed-she-was-pregnant.html

Edited March 24, 2016 by modey
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[ThomThomDrum]

I see some of AJs porn preferences have been reported on now. The guy is fucked in the head and I'm now convinced her age was a major factor for the freak. Hope the prick's appeal fails...

[pink_triangle]

England should have reasonable expectations, never as bad as people made out in recent years, yet never as good as people thought in the peak.

I don't think Germany lose a 2 goal game when it matters. They have lost 4 of their last 8 games, (England, USA, Ireland, France) but I doubt the players care, not will it impact tournament performances .

[eFestivals]

8 hours ago, Barry Fish said:

England starting to look a good side...  Likes of Vardy and Kane making England look decent and exciting for the future.  Not saying we are going to win fuck all but hoping we can start to make something an impact going forward.

the problem with last night is that last night's team won't play in June.

Rooney. Woy will pick Rooney even if he's in a wheelchair.

 

[pink_triangle]

52 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

the problem with last night is that last night's team won't play in June.

Rooney. Woy will pick Rooney even if he's in a wheelchair.

 

Although for the sake of balance they qualified with a 100 percent record and Rooney scoring a lot of goals.

I find the amount of analysis about yesterdays game mad, I have always been of the opinion you can take little from friendlies. Germany have lost their last 3, Spain lost several in between winning 3 trophies.