whitecarlos Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Any way of knowing this? I can see them failing to break even and chucking it after this year. If we see tickets appearing on Groupon type sites I think games a bogey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Day Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 They won't ever release their figures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulk2904 Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 There's every chance they will struggle financially this year but I would suggest that is more down to the half a million they had to throw at getting a planning application. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitecarlos Posted June 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 There's every chance they will struggle financially this year but I would suggest that is more down to the half a million they had to throw at getting a planning application. Not to do with the threadbare lineup which has led to poor ticket sales? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colfaedee Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Probably prepared to take a hit this year to get it established at the new site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulk2904 Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Not to do with the threadbare lineup which has led to poor ticket sales? How do you know there's poor ticket sales? Just because there's tickets left? There's been tickets left every year for a while now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitecarlos Posted June 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 How do you know there's poor ticket sales? Just because there's tickets left? There's been tickets left every year for a while now. Maybe Im wrong to assume there are poor ticket sales. But I'm guessing if there were limited tickets left they'd be marketing it as such? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeawilliams19 Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 They haven't sold outbid years and never will the tickets haven't been advertisers limited I think since 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilman Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 They haven't sold outbid years and never will the tickets haven't been advertisers limited I think since 2008 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeawilliams19 Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Auto correct on my phone is gonna make me seem like a 2 year old haha.basically tickets haven't been sold out in a ages they most probly won't again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu150 Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 (edited) We have to remember - it was only a few years that tickets went super fast. I think T 2004 was the first year it sold out prior to the festival. Then tickets sold out on "main sale day" from 05-09 (I think) It was still selling out before the festival in 2011 - I think Beyoncé was announced after it had already sold out. Hasn't sold out 2012-2015 - may just be a coincidence but I feel this was when the lineup started going more downhill (Stone Roses excluded) I think they have put on a more smart price festival this year - purely to recoup some of the costs associated with the move. I don't know if I'd go as far to say they would be making a loss on it - there is still quite a bit of sponsorship (BBC prob pays for TV/Radio rights. Tennents are a major sponsor. Sure??? Are randomly sponsoring King Tuts) Edited June 29, 2015 by stu150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGrant261 Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 (edited) it was only a few years that tickets went super fast. In those years they expanded rapidly as did most other festivals and now have what is effectively excess stock created from the boom years that they still try to sell off. Same goes for many festivals, scroll back through the efests history page and you'll see there were only ever 2/3 years that TITP & R&L could sell out the capacities they currently operate at now. Granted they expanded for a reason as they were selling out lower limits, but the fact capacities are still very high generally in an era when demand is falling, does hide what is still a pretty decent level of demand, even if it is falling. Line up wise yes this years is relatively poor but the issue is some think it's poor because there aren't enough Afrojack type acts on there and some think it's poor because there aren't enough War on Drugs type acts on there. So unless they address one distinct group (Becoming less mainstream) this problem will remain. Finally worth remembering the quality of acts available to book is generally going downhill and all festivals are suffering as a result. Edited June 29, 2015 by DGrant261 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 I think T 2004 was the first year it sold out prior to the festival. Nope ... I had the last two online tickets in 2000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlon dingle Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 I think the reason it doesn't sell out anymore is simple; the ticket price. If they kept the weekend camping ticket prices at around the £160/170 margin they would sell a lot more tickets. I think the line-up has definitely gotten worse over the last 5 years too. With them removing a few of the stages, the more alternative acts have been forced out of the festival. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeawilliams19 Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Tbh I don't think the lineup is that bad Its got variety which people have always wanted and the festival is most value for money out of all of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulk2904 Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Tbh I don't think the lineup is that bad Its got variety which people have always wanted and the festival is most value for money out of all of them How do you know it's best value for money? I would have thought that Glastonbury for an extra 20 quid would be far better value for money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahthing Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Glasto is the best value for money by some way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wee Dazzler Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Been 3 years since my last T and went 15 times. The value for money went from fantastic (in the 1990s), to okay (2000-2005), to poor (2006-present). I think value for money (price / line-up) is the main reason. I'm going this year and looking at tangerine fields. Previous times I've been these have been sold out quite early. This time, only the 8-man tents are gone. I spot a pattern with sales.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead throne Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Glasto is the best value for money by some way. Depends. Some people go for the atmosphere, some it's all about the music Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeawilliams19 Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 It was in the papers that t in the park is the best for the money because of quantity of acts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulk2904 Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 Glastonbury has far more acts than T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyguy Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 It was in the papers that t in the park is the best for the money because of quantity of acts On price per act booked Kendal Calling would beat it hands down. Unfortunately nobody uses that to determine value for money - it's acts you'd actually want to see and don't clash that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeawilliams19 Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/park-voted-uks-best-value-5734874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilman Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 It was in the papers that t in the park is the best for the money because of quantity of acts http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/park-voted-uks-best-value-5734874 That is quite frankly, a heap of bullshit. L/R and Glastonbury have more stages and more acts. The price is pretty much the same if you only go for the music days and with the reduction of day tickets this year it's probably cheaper for day trippers. I'd love to see the actual figures of that survey. Funnily enough the feedback suggests that most people agree with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHiddenPassenger Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 It was in the papers that t in the park is the best for the money because of quantity of acts On their wee promo vid they put out yesterday they claimed to have "over 200" acts playing but from what I've counted on the poster there's only ~162 (inc. thursday acts) so where is this other 40 acts coming from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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