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Anyone get the sense the end of Glastonbury is nigh?


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Good in theory but they would need to find an equally iconic site up north for them to be able to sell it, surely?

I suppose it depends how many people are more interested in the music alone than the whole essence of being at 'Glastonbury'

I think the fact it sells out without a line up gives you your answer.

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Got speaking to a older couple and their friends in one of The Park bars this year. I noticed there wristbands and passes at first. Obviously at the festival on who they know not their F5 skills.

 

Turned out they owned a pub down south that Chris Martin and pals like to have a tipple at. One of their friends had been doing some work for glastonbury. He was telling us some tall tales about how we should saviour this years festival and this moment because times are changing and will be changing pretty quickly. 

 

At the time I listened politely thinking he was just some other big time charlie 'in the know'. Turns out maybe I should of taken more onboard of what he was saying 

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Us scummy northerners'd still wanna travel down south though. Wouldn't you rather go down there than to glastonbury light at Harewood house or somesuch.

 

Of course, but them soft southerners might fancy seeing real Britain......

 

Where you need to wear a vest!

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If change is on the way - different site, 'sister' festival, whatever, are we assuming business as usual for next year then? I really hope so as I couldn't attend this year.

 

...But, then again, as someone mentioned earlier, bimbling around the festival site in full knowledge that this would in some way be the 'last' time - or at least last time in it's current incarnation would probably finish me off

 

Not to mention a particularly heart attack-inducing T day  

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Very little regard is being paid to the ley lines in this discussion. A site move would have to be very carefully researched imho

 

Yorkshire's bloody full on 'em..

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I think the fact it sells out without a line up gives you your answer.

 

Yeah but people know the lineup will be good so it's not really the answer.

Plenty of people go to Glasto and never go beyond the main couple of stages, while others basically just stay up all night in the dance areas and stay at their tent for most of the day.

So what difference does it make to them whether they're in Glastonbury or Cumbria, honestly?

Some people don't experience much, if anything, of what makes Glastonbury different - Greenpeace, Healing Fields, Green Fields, Stone Circle, Circus, Leftfield, Glade etc.

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A Reading/Leeds style split would be a terrible disaster.

A division of labour split where some areas get moved to the other festival would be a terrible disaster.

 

If it isn't one event in one place, with as much as possible crammed into it, it's not Glastonbury as we know it.

 

Glastonbury isn't perfect, so the solution is to make it more like Reading and Leeds? Incredible.

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I've no idea who Bickershaw is....?

 

I know Beedle was involved somehow, tho I'm not sure if he was the main man.

 

Bickershaw festival in Wigan in 1972. One of my Dad's biggest regrets not making it: Grateful Dead, Captain Beefheart, New Riders of the Purple Sage, Hawkwind, Dr John, Donovan, Wishbone Ash, Incredible String Band to name but a few  

 

Unwisely sited pretty much on a coal pit and an unholy amount of wind and rain resulting in people camping in black mud. Christ knows what the Californians thought. You don't (quite) get that in Somerset.

 

A pre-cursor to the Deeply fests, which is probaly as close as the North got to a substantial festival offering in the 70s/80s

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Got speaking to a older couple and their friends in one of The Park bars this year. I noticed there wristbands and passes at first. Obviously at the festival on who they know not their F5 skills.

 

Turned out they owned a pub down south that Chris Martin and pals like to have a tipple at. One of their friends had been doing some work for glastonbury. He was telling us some tall tales about how we should saviour this years festival and this moment because times are changing and will be changing pretty quickly. 

 

At the time I listened politely thinking he was just some other big time charlie 'in the know'. Turns out maybe I should of taken more onboard of what he was saying 

 

Do you think it's beyond the realms of possibility that he could have been talking out of his arse?

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I've no idea who Bickershaw is....?

 

I know Beedle was involved somehow, tho I'm not sure if he was the main man.

 

According to Wiki, Beadle worked on Bickershaw Festival with Deeply founder Chris Hewitt in 1972, which inspired the latter to create Deeply Vale in 1976. Could have been worse, could have been Ken Dodd....

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We have been mulling the Shambala branded Kids camping spin off for a couple of years. we would definately be up for a Camp Glastonbury type option but without the corporate stuff. Hasnt Rob Da Bank expanded into the US recently as well.

 

They have chronically underused the brand from a business point of view, even if you were just talking about a global charity push.

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I feel like this could have potentially been in the works around the time of the ticket sales. For years now, the speed of the sales hasn't been affected by See's servers. This year, it all happened very quickly, which I'd imagine was intentional (just flipping a metaphorical switch to allow 1000 people in at a time instead of 100).

 

Could be that they wanted to test what See's servers could manage, could be that they wanted a nice headline number for how fast the tickets sold out to give a second festival (run in addition to the main one most likely, although not 100%) a boost for next year.

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I feel like this could have potentially been in the works around the time of the ticket sales. For years now, the speed of the sales hasn't been affected by See's servers. This year, it all happened very quickly, which I'd imagine was intentional (just flipping a metaphorical switch to allow 1000 people in at a time instead of 100).

 

Could be that they wanted to test what See's servers could manage, could be that they wanted a nice headline number for how fast the tickets sold out to give a second festival (run in addition to the main one most likely, although not 100%) a boost for next year.

Whilst I take your point, I think you're underestimating what's involved with processing quite so many requests as See get on T-Day.  It's not just the number of tickets sold, or the number of people trying, it's the number of times F5 is pressed. It is rather a lot!

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If/when it comes to an end .. I doubt they'd announce it in advance. Imagine the demand on ticket day, and the amount of people that would sneak into the last ever Glastonbury. Would be crazy.

There would obviously be strong rumours beforehand from people ITK on here, but it wouldn't be widespread knowledge.

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Works for me. The Glastonbury Tor has always felt very familiar to me since from the right angle it's just like Castle Hill.

 

Yup, it's the view out of my window too!

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