2017 festival

[Obiginnaw]

9 minutes ago, oneoftherest said:

Frank would be high up in the pit or mid NME. Pit headliners have been really big for the past couple years. Asking Alexandria, Good Charlotte, Jimmy Eat World, Mastodon etc all much bigger than Frank. 

Would imagine Frank could be mid NME like slaves were in 2015, considering get same year he filled the pit easily with a 2 week old album 

 

people last year had drenge to head the FR stage as well, could happen this year 

[oneoftherest]

Drenge have a new album coming out next year so would've thought they'd end up at R+L, not entirely sure they'd headline FR, think they'd take a mid-high NME instead.

[JSmurphy]

I don't think Catfish & The Bottlemen are ever going to headline unless R&L are desperate. Seeing their name at the top of the poster would be surreal. I mean hypothetically if their next album(s) are hugely popular then they could be given how long it took for Queens of the Stone Age and Paramore to get co-headline slots. I still can't differentiate between them and Blossoms if I hear either on the radio. 

[OscarEB]

1 minute ago, JSmurphy said:

I don't think Catfish & The Bottlemen are ever going to headline unless R&L are desperate. Seeing their name at the top of the poster would be surreal. I mean hypothetically if their next album(s) are hugely popular then they could be given how long it took for Queens of the Stone Age and Paramore to get co-headline slots. I still can't differentiate between them and Blossoms if I hear either on the radio. 

Unless they're desperate? They had Mumford headline. But I hope Catfish don't sub or headline in the next couple of years

[JSmurphy]

Just now, OscarEB said:

Unless they're desperate? They had Mumford headline. But I hope Catfish don't sub or headline in the next couple of years

Mumford & Sons aren't my thing but they did have a Glastonbury headline slot and three massively popular albums by the time they headlined R&L tho. 

[oneoftherest]

Whether you like it or not, they have been hugely successful. They're a perfect fit for R+Ls demographic, both appealing to Radio 1 kids and indie lads. They sold out Castlefield Bowl (8000) in 6 minutes and an entire arena tour amassing more than 60,000 tickets without the help of a big supporting bill. With another successful album, they could headline R+L.

[Obiginnaw]

If foals could do it, then catfish could co-headline very soon 

[Gozpot]

Get the feeling an Alt-J/Bastille co-headline could be on the cards, pure speculation obviously.

[JSmurphy]

2 minutes ago, Gozpot said:

Get the feeling an Alt-J/Bastille co-headline could be on the cards, pure speculation obviously.

If they're going to have a co-headliner pair next year then alt-J is my safest bet too. Wouldn't be surprised if they subbed (Radiohead?) at Glastonbury and then went on to a co-headline spot in August at R&L à la Foals last year. 

[oneoftherest]

Alt J are the safest shout for a coheadline, not sure if it will materialise mind. Think Royal Blood would be a bloody big gamble on R=Ls part.

[YoramG]

Saw both Catfish (Derby Arena) and BMTH (Nottingham) this month and they're just such incredible live acts that just having their names on a festival poster makes me consider attending. Bring Me really blew me away actually, the only other time I saw them was at Reading 2015 and thought it was pretty sub-par (mostly due to Oli's vocals), but they're absolutely smashing it recently. Headline slots for them seem to be the only thing that makes sense now, especially having subbed before. Catfish really shouldn't sub though, not yet. Despite their fan base, their live sets being excellent, selling out arenas, fairly good record sales, etc. seeing their name just under someone like Kasabian would be fairly underwhelming, and I'm a huge fan.Maybe next album cycle.

[oneoftherest]

I agree, if they sub they'd have to be exclusive as I think they've absolutely rinsed the live circuit over the past year or two.

[dentalplan]

19 minutes ago, oneoftherest said:

Think Royal Blood would be a bloody big gamble on R=Ls part.

Not really. What I'm predicting is they announce their return with a new single at the start of 2017, album to come in March/April, arena tour around the same time. So going into summer they'd be everywhere; the name on everyone's lips and an easy headliner.

That isn't unrealistic - especially not considering how they've been marketed so well that I imagine most people here have seen them once whether they're a fan or not and heard all their big singles whereas plenty of us couldn't pick an alt-J song out of a lineup.

[oneoftherest]

1 hour ago, dentalplan said:

Not really. What I'm predicting is they announce their return with a new single at the start of 2017, album to come in March/April, arena tour around the same time. So going into summer they'd be everywhere; the name on everyone's lips and an easy headliner.

That isn't unrealistic - especially not considering how they've been marketed so well that I imagine most people here have seen them once whether they're a fan or not and heard all their big singles whereas plenty of us couldn't pick an alt-J song out of a lineup.

Knowing the odd song doesn't necessarily make a headliner. Considering the album could completely flop.

Plus it'd be daft to have an arena tour as well as R&L, makes them worth so much less as a headliner. 

[thewayiam]

3 hours ago, oneoftherest said:

Catfish have just sold out a small arena tour, including Wembley. Would expect them to sub if they play, I'd expect they'd be exclusive if they play too.

Very much so, they aren't going to have them 3rd if they can get away with sub and they did it for BMTH with Metallica.

3 hours ago, Gozpot said:

I don't think they will sub if they aren't on an exclusive personally, if they are an exclusive then it seems likely they would sub.

There is no smaller place for them to play and no other larger festival for them to play England at least to stop them being exclusive. There is IOW but their undercard are shite usually anyway.

3 hours ago, JSmurphy said:

I don't think Catfish & The Bottlemen are ever going to headline unless R&L are desperate. Seeing their name at the top of the poster would be surreal. I mean hypothetically if their next album(s) are hugely popular then they could be given how long it took for Queens of the Stone Age and Paramore to get co-headline slots. I still can't differentiate between them and Blossoms if I hear either on the radio. 

I think you need to think again. 

3 hours ago, Obiginnaw said:

If foals could do it, then catfish could co-headline very soon 

Similar sized tours basically lol.

[Foals/Disclosure]

4 hours ago, Obiginnaw said:

Also in terms of other acts, would Slaves be big enough now to headline NME (assuming they are playing)?  and I'd also assume Frank Carter would be there off his new album, where would he realistically be put, could he headline the pit?

Doubt they would headline NME, probably sub the NME or headline the Lock Up/The Pit

[Gozpot]

21 minutes ago, thewayiam said:

There is no smaller place for them to play and no other larger festival for them to play England at least to stop them being exclusive. There is IOW but their undercard are shite usually anyway.

Doesn't matter about England, it'd be a UK exclusive. So they couldn't play TITP, Glasto, IoW, BST, Latitude, V? They could play just about every large or medium sized festival aside from the metal and dance festivals.

[MontheBiff1997]

Met Ben Thatcher (drummer of Royal Blood) at the main stage of Reading this year just after Slaves had performed, obviously asked where the next album was and he said it would be out early next year. Of course he could just be trying to satisfy a few intoxicated teenagers so that we'd leave him alone but I'm hopeful that it will be coming out fairly soon. 

Also he seems like a really nice, down to earth guy who enjoys Reading festival, surely them headlining is not far off.

[Bisque]

Pendulum?

[JSmurphy]

3 minutes ago, Bisque said:

Pendulum?

It's a shame but Pendulum are pretty much dead at this point. Their self-described 'return' last exactly one show in March last year. It's well documented how disillusioned the band were before their hiatus and it's clear that they're happy with progressing with new Knife Party material every few months and Pendulum existing purely through DJ sets. 

Having said all that I hope I'm proven wrong and they do come back to doing live shows soon. Master of Puppets / Slam at Brixton looked and sounded brilliant. 

[Bisque]

4 minutes ago, JSmurphy said:

Master of Puppets / Slam at Brixton looked and sounded brilliant. 

It was.

Grasping at straws but the two times I've seen them at Reading the crowds were huge.

Saw them 4 times one summer. Own gig, Glasto, Global & Bestival. Glasto was a bit meh but the rest were just epic.

[JSmurphy]

Just now, Bisque said:

It was.

Grasping at straws but the two times I've seen them at Reading the crowds were huge.

Saw them 4 times one summer. Own gig, Glasto, Global & Bestival. Glasto was a bit meh but the rest were just epic.

Lucky bastard. By the time I got to 15 / 16 and could start going to gigs they were on their last legs. I'd imagine they'd draw a massive crowd at R&L if they were booked again. 

[Bisque]

38 minutes ago, JSmurphy said:

Lucky bastard. By the time I got to 15 / 16 and could start going to gigs they were on their last legs. I'd imagine they'd draw a massive crowd at R&L if they were booked again. 

Sub Focus was support too at Wembley, doesn't get much better if you're into that kind of thing

edit: don't ever go to Global Gathering

Edited November 22, 2016 by Bisque

[dentalplan]

1 hour ago, oneoftherest said:

Knowing the odd song doesn't necessarily make a headliner. Considering the album could completely flop.

Plus it'd be daft to have an arena tour as well as R&L, makes them worth so much less as a headliner. 

Why would doing their own shows make them less of a headliner?

What I was saying was they're pretty well known for an act with one album, because they're pretty well promoted. This is also why I don't think R+L will be accounting for the album being a flop.

Also what is a flop for them? If they only had half the first week sales of the last one it'd be doing about as well as this year's headliners latest. If it sold half as well total it's still a gold album. Y'all really anticipating a bigger capitulation than that?

[BeddingatReading]

Just for fun then what's everyone's predictions for the first announcement? Based on the first announcement last year there's going to be about 10 bands announced, probably the biggest main headliner and one NME headliner and a few fillers. 

I'm going Kasabian, You Me At Six, Catfish, Gorgon City, Blossoms, Moose Blood, White Lies, Sleigh Bells and Galantis. I know it could be anyone but thought I might as well post a prediction see what everyone thinks.