Peter Dow's political defence -v- "criminal tweets" charge

[eFestivals]

whoops, not that one, this one:-

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/feb/27/trident-labour-corbyn-rally-london-sturgeon#comment-69654565

[DomDom1984]

Jeezo. Peter Dow posts on here too? Is there ANY way to avoid this guy?

[eFestivals]

Just now, DomDom1984 said:

Jeezo. Peter Dow posts on here too? Is there ANY way to avoid this guy?

I guess there might be, if Scotland were to become independent and republican.

[russycarps]

24 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

here you go Russy, I've found Peter's Guardian profile for you

https://profile.theguardian.com/user/id/15817054

And here's the post - with no replies, still:-

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/mar/09/scotland-finances-referendum-year-nicola-sturgeon#comment-70238766

 

Cheers! Look at the bloody show off, with his fancy BSc in his username...

Just reading some of his older posts, I didnt realise he was pro-nuke

"Corbyn and Sturgeon policies of nuclear disarmament may inflict upon the world not merely the 50 or 60 million lives lost in world war 2 but maybe 5,000 to 6,000 million lives lost in a global nuclear holocaust of world war 3.

Corbyn and Sturgeon must be stopped and soon. The peace of the world may depend on it."

 

It's like a james bond script!

 

and then some of the replies:

" Are you on medication? "

" You really are mental."

" Is it a full moon tonight?"

 

 

[Peter Dow]

10 hours ago, eFestivals said:

hello Peter, I spotted another post of yours on the Guardian a couple of days ago.

I never look at who a post is from that I read, but I was reading yours and thought "this sounds familiar", so scrolled up, and yep, it's yours. You're easy to spot.

 

Hello eFestivals. It's nice to be remembered. 

9 hours ago, russycarps said:

what article was it under?

Peter - I dont use twitter but I will wish you good luck with the trial. Don't lose your temper in court.

 

OK, thanks and yes I have watched all those court movies and TV dramas where the accused is deemed to have "proved the case against himself" by losing his temper, which is not logical, unless losing one's temper itself is deemed to be "a crime".

9 hours ago, lost said:

There was also one under the telegraphs article on Scotlands £15bn shortfall

You can follow all my comments on the Telegraph and a number of other sites which use Disqus for comments at this link

https://disqus.com/by/PeterDow/

 

[Peter Dow]

8 hours ago, eFestivals said:

 

yeah, was an article on the same subject at the Guardian. The other post of Peter's I saw a month or two back was in a Scotland article too (of course). I'd have thought such a staunch nationalist would have kept away from the unionist press.

Likewise from me, and good advice from Russy.

I know you might feel the whole structure of law is wrong, but it is what it is, and that's the basis the trial will take place on. It's worth keeping that in mind so you don't bring extra onto yourself.

Well many Scots are unionists who read the unionist press so where better to reach them and try to win them over.

I'm also an internationalist seeking to build cooperation between all nations, between Scots and the English.

Plus, I have dual nationality - proudly British as well as Scottish.

It's just the kingdom and monarchy I can't stand.

The courts have their structure but it amounts to a judicial dictatorship rather than the rule of law. The judges can ignore the law in practice and make whatever finding they like. The judges can just as easily say "guilty" as "not guilty" in any case.

It is the same as anyone who answered the poll here could vote "Guilty" or "NOT Guilty".

However much the state dresses the court structure up with lawyers gowns and wigs and benches and docks, it is simply the opinion of one person who gets to dictate the outcome.

I can assure you I am not looking to bring extra upon myself but neither I am looking to go to jail without my political side of the story being told on the internet. If I am going to suffer a death in custody then I want to it to be known what I died for.

[Peter Dow]

8 hours ago, DomDom1984 said:

Jeezo. Peter Dow posts on here too? Is there ANY way to avoid this guy?

That's what court cases are for - a way for the state to make sure the public avoids any guy they want avoided, by imprisoning him.

Prisons don't have internet for the prisoners but they do have deaths in custody for some prisoners.

8 hours ago, eFestivals said:

I guess there might be, if Scotland were to become independent and republican.

Actually, there is no guarantee that I wouldn't be imprisoned and very avoidable even in a Scottish republic.

However, if I was free in a Scottish republic I would still have an interest in things outside Scotland and be posting in all my old haunts. 

[Peter Dow]

8 hours ago, russycarps said:

Cheers! Look at the bloody show off, with his fancy BSc in his username...

 

I had to create a new username because the Guardian moderator put my old username on pre-post moderation, meaning none of my posts were appearing.

For a supposedly, "liberal" newspaper, the Guardian moderators are quite authoritarian, illiberal and censorious.

As you can read in the blurb for my political defence blog I mentioned that I am a scientist

• Peter Dow is a Scottish scientist and a republican socialist whose legal human rights are cruelly violated by the police and courts in Aberdeen, where he lives.
• Peter Dow's political defence blog publishes the truth about the wrongful and unjust royalist arrests, prosecutions, convictions and punishments he endures.

And my blog photograph features me standing in front of my academic qualification certificates on a wall

This is quite deliberate because I wish to present myself accurately as a highly educated person with serious republican politics, not as the prosecution will falsely try to paint me - "a common criminal of low intelligence and no education who has made very offensive, threatening comments against Her Majesty, M'Lord / M'Lady"

 

8 hours ago, russycarps said:

Just reading some of his older posts, I didnt realise he was pro-nuke

"Corbyn and Sturgeon policies of nuclear disarmament may inflict upon the world not merely the 50 or 60 million lives lost in world war 2 but maybe 5,000 to 6,000 million lives lost in a global nuclear holocaust of world war 3.

Corbyn and Sturgeon must be stopped and soon. The peace of the world may depend on it."

 

It's like a james bond script!

A page on my website which I wrote years ago -

SCOTTISH NATIONAL STANDARD BEARER: Peter Dow

For Nuclear Weapons based at Faslane

Supporting the Trident submarine base on the Clyde

I can easily reconcile my Scottish independence with my support for the British nuclear deterrent by suggesting that the Scots offer to the British a deal to make the nuclear weapons bases on the Clyde, sovereign British military bases, like the British military bases in Gibraltar or Cyprus - thus forever divorcing the issues of Scottish independence and nukes.

Well Corbyn and Sturgeon are too ineffectual to feature as the main enemy in a James Bond script.

I think to make a James Bond script out of this, you'd have to introduce a super villain who was manipulating naive nuclear disarmers like Corbyn and Sturgeon for his own nuclear blackmail purposes - maybe an Argentine general with nukes bought from Russia or Pakistan with plans to retake the Falklands, or a Middle East monarch wishing to acquire British territory for his own kingdom. maybe?

There have been plenty of films and documentaries made about the second world war but few if any of them have featured the disarmers like George Lansbury, Labour leader in the early 1930s, who did so much to weaken British military preparedness and resolve. which weakness only encouraged the rise of Nazis.

Perhaps there should be such a "Beware of the disarmers" Bond film made because then the public would more readily understand the danger Corbyn and Sturgeon pose to world peace?

Edited March 11, 2016 by Peter Dow

[russycarps]

Regarding your day in court, you know very well that tugging your forelock to the judge and humbly saying yes sir and no sir at the correct times will see you get an easier ride. Having your day in court and trying to expose perceived conspiracies won't end well for you, but I know you well enough to know that is exactly what you are going to do, so all I can do is wish you all the best with it.

Regarding the nukes, I think you overestimate the global importance of our handful of nukes somewhat.

Great britain is a geopolitical gnat.

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

@ Peter Dow,

Wishing you all the very best. Stick it to the man.

God bless.

Yog

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

 

Actually, tell them to go fuck themselves and say that I forced you in to describing them as such. Then we can both have a think about it and then re-declare that they should go fuck themselves. Seems perfect sense to me.

[Peter Dow]

On 11/03/2016 at 9:47 PM, russycarps said:

Regarding your day in court, you know very well that tugging your forelock to the judge and humbly saying yes sir and no sir at the correct times will see you get an easier ride. Having your day in court and trying to expose perceived conspiracies won't end well for you, but I know you well enough to know that is exactly what you are going to do, so all I can do is wish you all the best with it.

Yes I remember how it didn't end well for me when I represented myself  in court.

 

 

SCOTTISH NATIONAL STANDARD BEARER: Peter Dow

 

Arrogant and tyrannical judges

Beware of perverted judges and psychiatrists

Some judges cannot stand anyone who represents themselves and who dares to say that the judge has got it wrong or is incompetent.

...

I chose to represent myself in court - a decision that I would come to regret.

As a republican, defending myself in court, I had taken the principled position not to raise my hand in the witness box so as not to be seen to give undue respect to a royalist judge, Sheriff Colin Harris.

Harris could not understand this and rather than try to get his tiny, little brain around my political stance, he ordered my detention by the police for an hour or two while he thought about it, got me a lawyer, and then he imposed a bail condition that I be required to have a psychiatric examination.

I was initially released on bail but when it became evident that I would only agree to meet the court-appointed psychiatrist at a non-medical premises, such as at a lawyers’ office or at the court building, and the psychiatrist wouldn’t co-operate with my reasonable request, Harris revoked the bail and ordered me imprisoned on remand for three weeks in the remand wing of the local prison Craiginches (so that the psychiatrist could examine me in the medical room of the prison.)

On 11/03/2016 at 9:47 PM, russycarps said:

Regarding the nukes, I think you overestimate the global importance of our handful of nukes somewhat.

Great britain is a geopolitical gnat.

I think my estimation is realistic.

There are only 5 permanent members of the United Nations Security Council - the UK is one of them - but wouldn't be without our British independent nuclear deterrent.

However I would agree that we don't enhance Britain's position in the world with a head of state who is a monarch and a geopolitical gnat.

We do build our standing in the world by building strong alliances and friendships, not least with our American friends, and by that I mean Condoleezza Rice rather than Donald Trump.

 

 

 

[Peter Dow]

On 12/03/2016 at 2:49 AM, Yoghurt on a Stick said:

@ Peter Dow,

Wishing you all the very best. Stick it to the man.

God bless.

Yog

 

On 12/03/2016 at 6:15 AM, Yoghurt on a Stick said:

 

Actually, tell them to go fuck themselves and say that I forced you in to describing them as such. Then we can both have a think about it and then re-declare that they should go fuck themselves. Seems perfect sense to me.

Well I published more or less that on-line but if they are interested in my political views they can research them on-line. I've no intention of seeking to provoke them in court where they have all the advantages and I have none.

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

2 hours ago, Peter Dow said:

 

 I've no intention of seeking to provoke them in court where they have all the advantages and I have none.

My apologies Peter - I was a little drunk when I posted that. It wasn't a serious suggestion. I think what you have said above is the right tac to take on this.

[LondonTom]

Surely a medical premises  is more trustworthy than the court or a prison for a psychiatrist to meet with you?

[Peter Dow]

1 hour ago, LondonTom said:

Surely a medical premises  is more trustworthy than the court or a prison for a psychiatrist to meet with you?

You are muddling up what I said and what choices were available to me when.

I would have preferred a room in the court building or a lawyer's office as compared to a medical premises if those were the choices I had as a free man.

However, I was never offered a clear choice between prison or visiting a medical premises as a free man. After I didn't attend the medical premises but turned up in court as demanded, the sheriff lost his patience and refused to negotiate, simply withdrew my bail and had me imprisoned. After that I had no say in the matter -  I was not offered any option of leaving prison to agree to meet at a medical premises as a free man. Once I was in jail, I was in, end of. Then the only way to avoid being sectioned was to hire a lawyer and get him to enter a guilty plea to save the sheriff's face.

5 hours ago, Yoghurt on a Stick said:

My apologies Peter - I was a little drunk when I posted that. It wasn't a serious suggestion. I think what you have said above is the right tac to take on this.

No problem. 

Edited March 14, 2016 by Peter Dow

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

1 hour ago, Peter Dow said:

No problem. 

I see where you are coming from .

 

Good luck once again.

[Peter Dow]

For an update, see

Peter Dow's political defence blog, 14th September 2016: The naming and shaming of a procurator fiscal depute who wanted to cover up evidence and her own name

Also see -

Press and Journal, 14th September 2016: North-east man accused of threatening Queen demands police return computer

[eFestivals]

Keep at them Peter.

I'd guess that when they haven't got to trial over 2 years since the very minor 'offence' where all relevant evidence is immediately available from twitter, they don't have a case to present and they're hoping you'll roll-over for them.

[russycarps]

What a bunch of c**ts. Keep on fighting peter.

This did amuse me though: " accused prosecutors of “offending science and humanity”

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

Totally behind you on this one Peter.

 

[Peter Dow]

Quote

Dow claimed he may have used “colourful” language while engaging in political debate but denied he intended to cause anyone fear or alarm.

He said: “The tweets were rhetoric, not threats. There was no way that tweet was threatening to the Queen.

“I do not want people to think I am a nutter who is going to attack the Queen. I’m not a terrorist, I am a political activist. It was not a threat.”

Front page in the Press and Journal, a report in the Evening Express, as well as the one from the BBC.

Read those news reports all in the one place. on my political defence blog

https://peter-dow.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/freedom-fighter-threatened-queen-press.html

 

 

Edited February 2, 2017 by Peter Dow

[russycarps]

8 minutes ago, Peter Dow said:

Front page in the Press and Journal, a report in the Evening Express, as well as the one from the BBC linked to above.

Read those news reports all in the one place. on my political defence blog

https://peter-dow.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/freedom-fighter-threatened-queen-press.html

 

 

After threatening to "blow someones brains out" I would suggest that using a defence that claims the messages were "blown out of proportion" is not the wisest turn of phrase..

 

[eFestivals]

3 minutes ago, russycarps said:

After threatening to "blow someones brains out" I would suggest that using a defence that claims the messages were "blown out of proportion" is not the wisest turn of phrase..

 

 

[russycarps]

37 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

 

did you ever think you'd live to see the day when peter dow's mug would be front page news? What a time to be alive!

I am curious what sentence he'll receive. Presumably a suspended jail term I'd guess. 

Did you read the comments underneath. I am not entirely convinced by his plan to solve the ongoing Chilean wildfire tragedy....

"I would note that at this time the fires in Chile would be best solved long term by harvesting of tinder dry wood for use as a biomass fuel.".

Though removing the threat of forest fires by chopping down all the forests does have a simple beauty about it, I must admit.

 

 

Edited February 2, 2017 by russycarps