Euro referendum Glasto disenfranchised?

[A Guy Called Matt]

So really the EU referendum is like a belly button.

Are you an innie or an outie?

 

 

Disclaimer - just throwing some attempted humour into what is a serious matter.

[eFestivals]

33 minutes ago, Gnomicide said:

Do we know if the result expected on the night/next day like in UK elections? 

I'd guess that's been decided, but I've no idea what the decision is.

There's no real need for an over-night count cos nothing changes immediately, so I'd guess the count would happen the next day.

[bamber]

For anyone thinking of voting leave....

Think about the horrendous and very realistic prospect of this guy having unfettered control of the governance of this country for the next say 12 years?

 

[UEF]

The Leftfield tent will be organising a mass-postal vote. Any option will be permitted, as long as it's "IN"

Edited February 7, 2016 by UEF

[Tyonks]

KVShinedown and Efestivals(Neil?) first time I've been on for a few days, so only just seen your posts, mostly fair points although I do disagree with some.

Sadly I'm off to bed as I'm up far too late for a 9am shift (Youtube to blame) so putting forward my slightly rambling thoughts on the matter will have to wait for another day 

[somecoolusername]

The Independent has picked this up:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/around-135000-glastonbury-festival-revellers-could-miss-out-on-eu-referendum-vote-a6879451.html

Festival spokesperson says they will 'put provisions in place' if it does end up clashing. By that I assume they mean they will draw people's attention to the clash....

[eFestivals]

Just now, somecoolusername said:

By that I assume they mean they will draw people's attention to the clash....

I don't see what else they'd be able to do. It's not like the govt are going to set-up a special voting system for Glasto attendees.

[grumpyhack]

It's simple.  Just apply in good time for a postal vote.

 

 

[BadgerMatt]

There are valid arguments both ways but I'd just like to knock on the head the idea that leaving the EU means that the UK would no longer be bound by European human rights. This is a common misconception, but it is not true. The European Convention on Human Rights has nothing to do with the EU. It predates the EU (and the EEC and the common market) and is based on a completely different treaty and structure. The UK was one of its founders (unlike the EU which the UK joined 20 years after it was first established). It has its own European Court of Human Rights, which is completely separate to the Court of the European Union. (I know - the names seem almost designed to confuse!) 

Every European country except Belarus (47 countries) is signed up to the European Convention on Human Right (or ECHR). Therefore there are 19 European countries which are part of the European Convention on Human Rights but not in the EU. If the UK voted to leave the EU, it would not leave the ECHR. 

For the record, I would be completely against leaving the ECHR, and am undecided on the EU, but nudging towards leaving.

[airwaves]

Breaking news - Cameron is claiming that he has a workable deal with 'Europe'.

That would probably make June 23 a shoe in for the date of the referendum,

so, best get your postal vote application in.

[UEF]

On 17 February 2016 at 6:18 PM, eFestivals said:

I don't see what else they'd be able to do. It's not like the govt are going to set-up a special voting system for Glasto attendees.

They might set up a service for collecting postal votes from people who have brought them onsite. This would allow people to vote having been onsite since Tuesday or earlier but having heard the full debate up to Thursday.

[eFestivals]

1 minute ago, UEF said:

They might set up a service for collecting postal votes from people who have brought them onsite. This would allow people to vote having been onsite since Tuesday or earlier but having heard the full debate up to Thursday.

- that'll never happen.

If someone can't get their postal vote to a postbox, they're not going to get their postal vote to Glastonbury either. Not only that, but the time for receipt of postal votes will be gone by then anyway.

Plus of course electoral lists are all done locally, so your vote need to go to your locality because otherwise it's not possible to know whether that person has a right to vote.

[Terence Fletcher]

This is great news for us Brexit folk, Glasto goers tend to be young and very left wing so i would say a vast majority would vote to stay within the EU 

Hopefully most Glasto goers will not bother postal voting

[eFestivals]

4 minutes ago, Terence Fletcher said:

This is great news for us Brexit folk, Glasto goers tend to be young and very left wing so i would say a vast majority would vote to stay within the EU 

Hopefully most Glasto goers will not bother postal voting

it's all very well wanting your side to win, but wanting your side to win via a fiddle and not having won the argument only diminishes you.

[danssol]

I'll leave this here if anybody wants to register for a postal vote

Link to postal vote form

http://www.aboutmyvote.co.uk

 

 

[mrf]

34 minutes ago, Scruffylovemonster said:

Pros and cons of staying in Europe aside, surely the most horrible horrible thing about the whole debate is the fucking word "brexit." 

Fucking "brexit." I'm out.

Just chillax!

[A Guy Called Matt]

There is only one question that I find important in all of this:

Would I trust this Tory government to rewrite the Human Rights Act and Working Time Directive in a way that keeps all the rights etc that we have now?

The answer is a big fat NO.

Therefore I vote to stay in the EU.

[ICGenie]

3 minutes ago, A Guy Called Matt said:

There is only one question that I find important in all of this:

Would I trust this Tory government to rewrite the Human Rights Act and Working Time Directive in a way that keeps all the rights etc that we have now?

The answer is a big fat NO.

Therefore I vote to stay in the EU.

Irrelevant - the Human Rights Act rights into UK law the European Convention of Human Rights.  Being in the EU has no bearing on that law or our compliance with the ECHR.

[A Guy Called Matt]

18 minutes ago, ICGenie said:

Irrelevant - the Human Rights Act rights into UK law the European Convention of Human Rights.  Being in the EU has no bearing on that law or our compliance with the ECHR.

I did not know that! So why are the government saying they want to rewrite it I wonder?

How about the Working time directive though?

[ICGenie]

8 minutes ago, A Guy Called Matt said:

I did not know that! So why are the government saying they want to rewrite it I wonder?

How about the Working time directive though?

That is EU law.  And the Tory government was (I think) the only country to vote against it in 1993.

I'm all in, just want to make sure people are arguing "in" for the right reasons.

[Boozy]

Referendum confirmed for June 23rd.

[UEF]

Now everyone don't be lazy twats and get your postal applications in NOW rather than two days before you leave

[Uh-Oh!]

All I'll say, whether youre In or Out, get involved and get yourself a postal vote, its easy. Otherwise dont complain about the outcome

Edited February 20, 2016 by Uh-Oh!

[Spindles]

1 hour ago, danssol said:

I'll leave this here if anybody wants to register for a postal vote

Link to postal vote form

http://www.aboutmyvote.co.uk

 

 

I'd just spunked my last upvote on Scruffy's post, so I'll shamelessly quote this in case anyone missed it.

[Spindles]

Ah, my apologies, as with all upvotes it was wholly and thoroughly deserved by way of either making me smile or nod in agreement.  Please be assured that my next available vote will go your way for this perceived slight.