Euro referendum Glasto disenfranchised?

[A Guy Called Matt]

1 hour ago, ICGenie said:

That is EU law.  And the Tory government was (I think) the only country to vote against it in 1993.

I'm all in, just want to make sure people are arguing "in" for the right reasons.

I wish the media would help with the right reasons - I watched 20 minutes of news just now and despite having a reasonable grasp of it all (though learning all the time) I got bored with all the politicians so very fast. How someone who needs to learn is supposed to do that I really don't know.

[UEF]

1 hour ago, A Guy Called Matt said:

I wish the media would help with the right reasons - I watched 20 minutes of news just now and despite having a reasonable grasp of it all (though learning all the time) I got bored with all the politicians so very fast. How someone who needs to learn is supposed to do that I really don't know.

 

The BBC usually do good summaries

 

[A Guy Called Matt]

22 minutes ago, UEF said:

 

The BBC usually do good summaries

 

Here is their latest - sounds like they are rather sitting on the fence to me... but then they have to... just giving either sides views.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35620821

[Mr.Tease]

5 hours ago, Scruffylovemonster said:

"Brexit" is even worse than "chillax," "jeggings" or any of the other contractions used colloquially. I hate them all, but "brexit" is the evil to end all evils.

I completely agree- although i would say contemporary phrase "netflix and chill" just about tops it it terms of being the face of true evil

[Mr.Tease]

1 minute ago, Scruffylovemonster said:

If that ever becomes chillflix or nethill then I'll agree with you.. 

There are no depths to which the human race will not stoop- it's just a matter of time

[Martin Ashford]

Vote to leave if you'd rather live in a country with an economy the size of Bolivia

[rawaudioinput]

This is a highly elucidating documentary on Britain's relationship with the EU; it's obviously terribly biased however even so it still provides a very concise account of Britain's history with the European question, well worth a watch regardless of whether you are in or out

[LondonTom]

14 hours ago, A Guy Called Matt said:

How about the Working time directive though?

TBH don't most employers force most to opt out of it anyway? I know I have had to in the past.

[UEF]

5 hours ago, LondonTom said:

TBH don't most employers force most to opt out of it anyway? I know I have had to in the past.

They can't, but some casual leave the opt-out form next to the contract when they give it to you

[eFestivals]

Look at the 'big' names who wants out.

Look at the 'big' names who want in.

And then think about which ones you agree most with over other issues.

I reckon that could be quite enlightening for many.

 

[6t6o6m]

I'm not really a fan of Gove or any of his policies and the ways he goes about things. So it surprises me little that he is part of the leave team.

I personally will not enjoy the lead up to the referendum due to the nastiness of the Scottish one a year or so ago. Both sides behaved like children with the SNP verging on nationalistic nutters. Hope it doesn't come down to that here but I'm sure it will, putting a slight divide in communities.

Lets enjoy the slow tedious ride of politicians arguing like children for their own over inflated egos and self importance.

[Wooderson]

Will Cameron be able to rescue IDS' career if he can't help himself during the campaign?

[Boss84]

Postal Vote it is. I need to do a bit more research into it before I decide.

[bombfrog]

I'm firmly in the IN camp, but so is Jeremy Hunt apparently. 

[Wooderson]

Fascinating to see such a close neighbour grapple with its identity over years and years. 

[HattersBoy]

Another conspiracy theory about the date of the referendum, ffs does this assume that 140,000 peopl are too stupid or lazy to register the postal vote! I would be more concerned about the larger number of football fans watching the euros who cant be arsed to vote as they're too pissed. Politics bores me now but that doesnt mean I would not vote. I am voting for IN largely due to the fact an OUT vote would cause issues for the company I work with who have frachisees throughout the EU.

[arcade fireman]

5 hours ago, eFestivals said:

Look at the 'big' names who wants out.

Look at the 'big' names who want in.

And then think about which ones you agree most with over other issues.

I reckon that could be quite enlightening for many.

 

There's enough odious people on either side. Plenty of Tories, Jeremy Hunt, Cameron, Theresa May etc are in. But on the other side you have Farage, IDS, Gove, George Galloway, probably Boris. 

Labour whose views would most closely match the average person on this forum are in, but Corbyn is arguably more suspicious of the EU than most of his party. I would think his personal views are more towards out than he's letting on. 

[rawaudioinput]

The majority of the Labour party were against the EU, dating back from its inception until the early 90's

[arcade fireman]

2 minutes ago, rawaudioinput said:

The majority of the Labour party were against the EU, dating back from its inception until the early 90's

True. Corbyn's suspicions probably stem from that as he's one of the old guard. 

[Bonedaddy]

In case anyone is interested in gambling / odds etc.  The odds of us staying in the EU sank from 72.5% to 65.8% after the news of Boris Johnson's choice to campaign for out.

[ICGenie]

2 minutes ago, Bonedaddy said:

In case anyone is interested in gambling / odds etc.  The odds of us staying in the EU sank from 72.5% to 65.8% after the news of Boris Johnson's choice to campaign for out.

How fucked up is the world when that clown is considered to have that much influence?

[Bonedaddy]

2 minutes ago, ICGenie said:

How fucked up is the world when that clown is considered to have that much influence?

Betting markets are like financial markets, they always over-react to news and purely because this is the first piece of news that has come out since the referendum date announcement and it's from a conservative member, it's pushed the pricing far.

 

On the bright side, i made £183 from it!

[LondonTom]

5 hours ago, ICGenie said:

How fucked up is the world when that clown is considered to have that much influence?

Londoners have known it for about 8 years now sadly.

[arcade fireman]

5 hours ago, Bonedaddy said:

Betting markets are like financial markets, they always over-react to news and purely because this is the first piece of news that has come out since the referendum date announcement and it's from a conservative member, it's pushed the pricing far.

 

On the bright side, i made £183 from it!

I don't think it's an over-reaction, Boris is somehow a popular politician and if he plays a leading role in the race then it's going to be  a lot tighter than previously thought. 

[Guest]

Boris is looking rather further ahead than June.