Football 16-17

[eFestivals]

17 minutes ago, TheGayTent said:

1) No one thinks Leicester can defend their title? 

No one does.

They've managed to hang on to more of their players than I thought would be the case, so who knows, really? I don't think it's impossible they'll be in the mix but it's hard not to view last season as a one-off, especially with all of the 'fairytale' narrative that went alongside it.

[TheGayTent]

You'd think Europe will cause them problems in the league too. 

[pink_triangle]

12 minutes ago, TheGayTent said:

Some (slightly out of date) stats on it:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/how-long-newly-promoted-teams-stay-4036482

I found something from March 2015 which said 5 from the last 18 had been relegated. Add the last 2 seasons that's 8 from 24 which is about what I thought. Also 2 seasons when all 3 survived.

[TheGayTent]

Interesting that Everton have poached Steve Walsh from Leicester...who in turn have poached Paul Mitchell from Tottenham to replace him, who themselves originally poached Mitchell from Southampton...

Edited August 10, 2016 by TheGayTent

[mjsell]

City

Arsenal

Liverpool

Tottenham

United

Chelsea

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Bournemouth

Burnley

Hull

[The Nal]

City

Utd

Arsenal

Chelsea

 

Hull

Burnley

Sunderland

 

Going with the bookies (ish). All to change after the first game as theres so many new players and managers. Haven't a fucking clue basically. 

[Andre91]

1. City
2. United
3. Arsenal 
4. Chelsea 
5. Liverpool 
6. Spurs 

18. Watford 
19. Burnley 
20. Hull 

[Gucci Piggy]

3 hours ago, eFestivals said:

Two of you have gone for this...

But isn't it (I'm not sure) the case that at least two of the promoted have always gone down again?

(If it's not 'always', then it's certainly most of the time. )

Wasn't the case last season

I've already decided to change my prediction from Spurs in 5th to Liverpool in 5th. Forgot that Liverpool don't have Europe and I'm not sure how well Spurs will do with the added commitment; their depth isn't great.

[mjsell]

1 hour ago, Will-2609 said:

Wasn't the case last season

I've already decided to change my prediction from Spurs in 5th to Liverpool in 5th. Forgot that Liverpool don't have Europe and I'm not sure how well Spurs will do with the added commitment; their depth isn't great.

Fairly sure you play less games in the champions league than you you do in Europa (I might be wrong) especially if you consider the chances of going far in each. Spurs coped fine with Europa - the only difficulty lies in getting the rotations right. I don't think Kane played much in Europa last year whereas I imagine he will be expected to play in most games this year. 

[Gucci Piggy]

23 minutes ago, mjsell said:

Fairly sure you play less games in the champions league than you you do in Europa (I might be wrong) especially if you consider the chances of going far in each. Spurs coped fine with Europa - the only difficulty lies in getting the rotations right. I don't think Kane played much in Europa last year whereas I imagine he will be expected to play in most games this year. 

Haha I completely forgot they had Europa last season. They did play a bunch of nobodies in the Europa when it got to crunch time in the league, though. But I guess they could do the same this year, and they're also unlikely to get as far in the competition this year.

[TheGayTent]

Southampton need a good few weeks else they're bottom six IMO. 

[kaosmark2]

6 hours ago, eFestivals said:

Two of you have gone for this...

But isn't it (I'm not sure) the case that at least two of the promoted have always gone down again?

(If it's not 'always', then it's certainly most of the time. )

1-2 almost always. I think 0 is more common than 3.

[thegremlin_1999]

Utd
City
Chelsea
Arsenal 
Spurs
Liverpool
West Ham
Leicester
Everton
Southampton 
Stoke
Sunderland 
Boro
Watford
Palace
Swansea
WBA
Bournemouth
Burnley
Hull

 

if I'm honest, I think we (Leicester) would be having a great season finishing there. I'd be super happy to finish mid table and get to a cup semi or get out of champs league group.

Edited August 10, 2016 by thegremlin_1999

[Gucci Piggy]

20 minutes ago, Scruffylovemonster said:

Spurs

Arsenal

After the way last season ended I think it is literally impossible for Spurs to finish above Arsenal. Somehow greater forces are preventing it.

[The Nal]

12 hours ago, eFestivals said:

Two of you have gone for this...

But isn't it (I'm not sure) the case that at least two of the promoted have always gone down again?

(If it's not 'always', then it's certainly most of the time. )

44% of newly promoted teams have gone straight back down since the start of the Premiership. All three have been relegated on two occasions and all three have stayed up on two occasions.

So....errrr.... one and a half of them are defo going back down. 

[Stuielooie]

1. Man Utd

2. Man City

3. Chelsea

4. Spurs

5. West Ham

6. Liverpool

7. Leicester

8. Arsenal

 

 

I think Arsenal are going to do a spurs this season. Unless they sign a decent CB and a world class striker.

 

[GlastoSimon]

1. Chelsea  (controversial but I'm assuming a defender will be signed too, no Europe etc.)

2. City

3. United

4. Spurs

5. Arsenal

6. Liverpool

7. Everton

8. Leicester

 

18. Palace

19. Burnley

20. Hull

[JSmurphy]

1. United
2. City
3. Chelsea 
4. Arsenal
5. Spurs
6. Liverpool
7. Leicester
8. West Ham 

18. Sunderland
19. Burnley
20. Hull

Promotions for:
Newcastle, Brighton and Derby
Sheffield United, MK Dons and Millwall
Doncaster, Leyton Orient and Portsmouth (please)

[Gucci Piggy]

2 hours ago, Stuielooie said:

1. Man Utd

2. Man City

3. Chelsea

4. Spurs

5. West Ham

6. Liverpool

7. Leicester

8. Arsenal

 

 

I think Arsenal are going to do a spurs this season. Unless they sign a decent CB and a world class striker.

 

Arsenal dropping from 2nd to 8th after signing Xhaka, losing no one, being the only top team without a manager change and having the most settled squad out of any of the teams you mention...

3 places below West Ham United...

[Stuielooie]

23 minutes ago, Will-2609 said:

Arsenal dropping from 2nd to 8th after signing Xhaka, losing no one, being the only top team without a manager change and having the most settled squad out of any of the teams you mention...

3 places below West Ham United...

I'm trying to not be biased. I might be slightly biased............

I think 4th max.

[Gucci Piggy]

16 minutes ago, Stuielooie said:

I'm trying to not be biased. I might be slightly biased............

I think 4th max.

Arsenal/Chelsea 3rd and 4th, for me. Chelsea probably getting 3rd.

[Stuielooie]

17 minutes ago, Will-2609 said:

Arsenal/Chelsea 3rd and 4th, for me. Chelsea probably getting 3rd.

I'm just hoping for something less predictable. Or did we get a few years worth of unpredictable last year?

[TheGayTent]

59 minutes ago, Will-2609 said:

Arsenal dropping from 2nd to 8th after signing Xhaka, losing no one, being the only top team without a manager change and having the most settled squad out of any of the teams you mention...

3 places below West Ham United...

Standing still is going backwards....

 

....but agree as low as 8th is unlikely. 

[LJS]

 OK, so as an ignorant Scotsman, who doesn't really support an English team, I thought I'd go with a somewhat different set of predictions...

 

Here goes

 

1: Arsenal

2: Leicester

3: West Ham

4: Liverpool

5: Man U

6: Everton

 

 

 

18: Southampton

19: Swansea

20: Watford

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Gucci Piggy]

55 minutes ago, TheGayTent said:

Standing still is going backwards....

 

....but agree as low as 8th is unlikely. 

Well they've signed Xhaka and Mustafi is imminent. I doubt they'll be out the top 4.