Football 16-17

[The Nal]

3 minutes ago, ThomThomDrum said:

Has the FA ever moved games to accommodate teams during squeaky bum time?

I think it would be on the Premier League to do it as opposed to the FA but I don't think so no. Its complete fucking madness. 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jul/30/premier-league-games-champions-league-scudamore-mourinho-wenger

[zahidf]

20 minutes ago, The Nal said:

Agree with Mourinho about the league game on Sunday. Europa Final on Wednesday and they can't move the game? Crazy stuff. 

In Italy and Spain they would've moved the game to tomorrow night or early Saturday. 

Last day of the season has to have all the games at the same time. 

Jose loves to blame fixtures. Deflection!

 

Their second team costs 250 million and is full of internationals  They should be able to beat palace at home ffs!

Edited May 18, 2017 by zahidf

[zahidf]

23 minutes ago, ThomThomDrum said:

Yeah but if Liverpool finished 5th and Utd with the 2 cups and CL I dont think you will hear many Pool fans gloat..........Utd will have had a better season regardless of their fondness for that 6th position all year

I think UTD fans, after their terrible league campaign and 17 draws, would be wise not to crow this season or act like they care about the league cup:-)

[The Nal]

2 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Last day of the season has to have all the games at the same time. 

Jose loves to blame fixtures. Deflection!

Not just this game but big European games in general. Its in the Premier Leagues interest for their teams to do well in Europe!

This argument has being going on for 25 years now. 

[mjsell]

Could United not just play their under 18s on Sunday? or is there some sort of rule against fielding obviously weaker teams in the league.

[zahidf]

11 minutes ago, The Nal said:

Not just this game but big European games in general. Its in the Premier Leagues interest for their teams to do well in Europe!

This argument has being going on for 25 years now. 

i wouldnt necessarily disagree with that. Bit much for jose to complain is all

[zahidf]

2 minutes ago, mjsell said:

Could United not just play their under 18s on Sunday? or is there some sort of rule against fielding obviously weaker teams in the league.

I believe teams have gotten in trouble for fielding a completely different team . Wolves are the obvious example

[ThomThomDrum]

17 minutes ago, The Nal said:

I think it would be on the Premier League to do it as opposed to the FA but I don't think so no. Its complete fucking madness. 

Yeah it would and I agree it is madness. It should be talked about and agreed upon in the off season that in the interest of English clubs performances in Europe that they can be potentially move domestic games. But it would have to be agreed upon by all PL teams I would have thought and not just a whim of the PL at the request of one team.........

[The Nal]

6 minutes ago, ThomThomDrum said:

Yeah it would and I agree it is madness. It should be talked about and agreed upon in the off season that in the interest of English clubs performances in Europe that they can be potentially move domestic games. But it would have to be agreed upon by all PL teams I would have thought and not just a whim of the PL at the request of one team.........

The worse The PL teams do, the more the coefficient drops. It would be in everyones interest. 

Or will they wait until theres only 3 teams from the PL in the Champo?

[Hugh Jass]

7 minutes ago, zahidf said:

I believe teams have gotten in trouble for fielding a completely different team . Wolves are the obvious example

Jose could put out whatever team he wanted and the league wouldn't dare touch him.

All he has done for the last few months is bleat about everything so that nobody notices that he's spent a ridiculous amount of money this year and his team are not better than LVG's.

[zahidf]

reterospective bans for diving to come in

http://www.football365.com/news/fa-set-to-approve-retrospective-bans-for-divers-at-meeting

[big__phil]

1 hour ago, The Nal said:

Its in the Premier Leagues interest for their teams to do well in Europe!

No it's not. The Premier League are pretty good at looking after themselves, and making a fortune from Man Utd when it comes to selling TV rights. The Premier League don't care about Europa League or CL, that's UEFA's gig.

[The Nal]

4 minutes ago, big__phil said:

No it's not. The Premier League are pretty good at looking after themselves, and making a fortune from Man Utd when it comes to selling TV rights. The Premier League don't care about Europa League or CL, that's UEFA's gig.

Yep and the more teams they have in tournaments like the Champions League, and the further those teams go, the higher the profile of those teams internationally. So they can make more of a fortune. 

[big__phil]

Just now, The Nal said:

Yep and the more teams they have in tournaments like the Champions League, and the further those teams go, the higher the profile of those teams internationally. So they can make more of a fortune. 

I know what you're saying, but the reality is that English teams haven't performed well in years, yet the PL TV deals still continue to grow. Perhaps, as you say, more success might increase global interest a little, but if that means moving teams like Utd into slots that aren't 'prime-time' to overseas viewers than I can't see the PL going for it.

Utd and Liverpool will always be incredibly well supported around the world, even if they don't live up to their former glories.

[pink_triangle]

1 hour ago, zahidf said:

I think UTD fans, after their terrible league campaign and 17 draws, would be wise not to crow this season or act like they care about the league cup:-)

I agree, but I think most Liverpool fans would take  5th and 2 cups over 4th.

[zahidf]

2 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

I agree, but I think most Liverpool fans would take  5th and 2 cups over 4th.

6th you mean. Arsenal are 5th.

 

And europa aint won yet!

[pink_triangle]

1 hour ago, zahidf said:

I believe teams have gotten in trouble for fielding a completely different team . Wolves are the obvious example

In that stupid checktrade trophy they were fining lower league teams who played weakened sides and won.

1 hour ago, The Nal said:

The worse The PL teams do, the more the coefficient drops. It would be in everyones interest. 

Or will they wait until theres only 3 teams from the PL in the Champo?

Haven't they recently changed the rules that protect the bigger teahs. I'm sure Italy have another slot.

[pink_triangle]

2 minutes ago, zahidf said:

6th you mean. Arsenal are 5th.

 

And europa aint won yet!

Yes i meant 6 and agree who has had the best season very much depends on that final.

[Wooderson]

Two cups all day long. Fuck this 4th panto.

[sdvruxk]

2 hours ago, mjsell said:

Could United not just play their under 18s on Sunday? or is there some sort of rule against fielding obviously weaker teams in the league.

He's said the team will have plenty of the reserve (u23) team players in it.

[The Nal]

9 minutes ago, sdvruxk said:

He's said the team will have plenty of the reserve (u23) team players in it.

The point is more about the disruption to training and preparation. Mourinho cant have them training on Sunday. 

Playing a pointless league game on Sunday and then having a European Final in Stockholm 72 hours later is absolutely stupid. Ajaxs last game was last Sunday. Theyll have an uninterrupted 10 day preparation. 

Klopp had the same issue last year. 

Edited May 18, 2017 by The Nal

[Lad]

1 hour ago, big__phil said:

I know what you're saying, but the reality is that English teams haven't performed well in years, yet the PL TV deals still continue to grow. Perhaps, as you say, more success might increase global interest a little, but if that means moving teams like Utd into slots that aren't 'prime-time' to overseas viewers than I can't see the PL going for it.

Utd and Liverpool will always be incredibly well supported around the world, even if they don't live up to their former glories.

Both teams are the natural home for worldwide bellends.How we used to laugh at mu for the gobshites they attracted. We're nearly as bad now.

[Wooderson]

The league doesnt care about teams or fans, European performance or otherwise. Twas ever thus since the Prem league breakaway.

That said, with their resources LFC and Utd shouldnt be complaining.

[TheGayTent]

3 hours ago, The Nal said:

The worse The PL teams do, the more the coefficient drops. It would be in everyones interest.

That's only one way of looking at it. The other is that by not pandering to the rich CL clubs by moving league fixtures to benefit them, gives the lesser clubs a better chance of getting results against them.

[The Nal]

36 minutes ago, TheGayTent said:

That's only one way of looking at it. The other is that by not pandering to the rich CL clubs by moving league fixtures to benefit them, gives the lesser clubs a better chance of getting results against them.

True. But would it make that much of a difference to a team playing once a week? Playing Friday night instead of Saturday etc? 6 days rest as opposed to 7.