2019 Headliners

[Superunknown]

3 minutes ago, gherkin8r said:

Can someone with mental health issues not be an arse hole as well? 

This ain't it chief.

[gherkin8r]

6 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

This ain't it chief.

Confused

[Amy Lawn]

1 hour ago, The Martini Police said:

It is indeed ridiculous behaviour for anyone to attend a set out of anger or to bring someone down but I don't think these suggestions that it's pure racism are reasonable. Whilst there might have been people being racist (didn't see it myself, crowd near me was fine) but seems much more likely to me that's it's because a lot of people, if not most, think he's an arrogant knobhead and wanted him to fail because of that. I think the obvious explanation that the flag was made to distract him and annoy him is more likely that it being racist, but it's still abhorrent and quite pathetic behaviour for non-racist reasons.

There's plenty of reason to take exception with The Rolling Stones for their tax evasion/Under My Thumb/Stray Cat Blues, Metallica for their bear hunting, The Who for the child porn on Pete Townshend's hard drive, Foo Fighters for promoting and funding AIDS denial that literally killed people, Muse for existing at all, but it's only Kanye that was met with such resistance. The last headliner to get such a negative reception was Jay-Z, with Noel Gallagher publicly saying hip-hop didn't belong at Glastonbury. Immediately after Kanye was announced there was a huge petition to "replace him with a rock band".

Some of the people who brought along heckling banners may not have had consciously racist reasons for doing so, but if they were too ignorant to see the clearly racist tone of the whole endeavour it doesn't excuse them.

Word is that Prince pulled out of talks when he saw that petition. We sometimes discuss on here why Glastonbury is so white when compared to the diversity of Britain, the line-up, and the wider world. There's a number of reasons why that is, but it definitely doesn't help when a very vocal minority of the audience take it upon themselves to wage a bullying campaign against very few black artists who take the step up to the top spot and white artists never face a jolt of opposition. You might think Kanye is an "arrogant knobhead" but fucking hell he's a pop star, it comes with the territory. Him being eccentric isn't out of the ordinary, but his treatment was. The message that comes across there is "this is a white space, you don't belong".

Edited February 12, 2019 by GETOFFAMYLAWN
Pete not Roger

[Hugh Jass]

16 minutes ago, TheFieryFurnace18 said:

If catfish get number 1 with their new album, headline TRNSMT and sell out their tour what do people think of their chances to headline Glasto on this album cycle?

I think they are non-existent. Mercifully.

[JoeyT]

3 minutes ago, GETOFFAMYLAWN said:

The Who for the child porn on Roger's hard drive

That was Pete Townshend mate not Roger D.

[Matt42]

3 minutes ago, GETOFFAMYLAWN said:

There's plenty of reason to take exception with The Rolling Stones for their tax evasion/Under My Thumb/Stray Cat Blues, Metallica for their bear hunting, The Who for the child porn on Roger's hard drive, Foo Fighters for promoting and funding AIDS denial that literally killed people, Muse for existing at all, but it's only Kanye that was met with such resistance. The last headliner to get such a negative reception was Jay-Z, with Noel Gallagher publicly saying hip-hop didn't belong at Glastonbury. Immediately after Kanye was announced there was a huge petition to "replace him with a rock band".

Some of the people who brought along heckling banners may not have had consciously racist reasons for doing so, but if they were too ignorant to see the clearly racist tone of the whole endeavour it doesn't excuse them.

Word is that Prince pulled out of talks when he saw that petition. We sometimes discuss on here why Glastonbury is so white when compared to the diversity of Britain, the line-up, and the wider world. There's a number of reasons why that is, but it definitely doesn't help when a very vocal minority of the audience take it upon themselves to wage a bullying campaign against very few black artists who take the step up to the top spot and white artists never face a jolt of opposition. You might think Kanye is an "arrogant knobhead" but fucking hell he's a pop star, it comes with the territory. Him being eccentric isn't out of the ordinary, but his treatment was. The message that comes across there is "this is a white space, you don't belong".

I agree. There’s way more to racism than direct discrimination. Indirect discrimination occurs in more ways than we think and the only thing we can do is own up to it and try and be better.

It is always black artists and women that receive this sort of criticism. So there is clearly an indirect issue that needs to be addressed and realised. 

[jyoung]

2 hours ago, TheNoise said:

He's got more than a few screws loose, he seems like an arsehole and he's married to a media whore.

Plot twist... You're the arse hole in this case, pal.

[Amy Lawn]

The moment Kanye took to that stage was sheer brilliance. So many wanting him to fail, so many wanting him to be "replaced with a rock band", he didn't give those bastards a single inch. Completely empty stage with one lone rapper stood there, he lit the entire fucker up so you could see it was just him, and started belting out "That that don't kill me can only make me stronger".

Stone cold killer.

[bigfurbdogg]

6 minutes ago, GETOFFAMYLAWN said:

There's plenty of reason to take exception with The Rolling Stones for their tax evasion/Under My Thumb/Stray Cat Blues, Metallica for their bear hunting, The Who for the child porn on Roger's hard drive, Foo Fighters for promoting and funding AIDS denial that literally killed people, Muse for existing at all, but it's only Kanye that was met with such resistance. The last headliner to get such a negative reception was Jay-Z, with Noel Gallagher publicly saying hip-hop didn't belong at Glastonbury. Immediately after Kanye was announced there was a huge petition to "replace him with a rock band".

Some of the people who brought along heckling banners may not have had consciously racist reasons for doing so, but if they were too ignorant to see the clearly racist tone of the whole endeavour it doesn't excuse them.

Word is that Prince pulled out of talks when he saw that petition. We sometimes discuss on here why Glastonbury is so white when compared to the diversity of Britain, the line-up, and the wider world. There's a number of reasons why that is, but it definitely doesn't help when a very vocal minority of the audience take it upon themselves to wage a bullying campaign against very few black artists who take the step up to the top spot and white artists never face a jolt of opposition. You might think Kanye is an "arrogant knobhead" but fucking hell he's a pop star, it comes with the territory. Him being eccentric isn't out of the ordinary, but his treatment was. The message that comes across there is "this is a white space, you don't belong".

The Raheem Sterling effect

[Amy Lawn]

3 minutes ago, JoeyT said:

That was Pete Townshend mate not Roger D.

My apologies. Should never had doubted Roger, a branch of my family are Daultreys, very respectable and un-noncey people.

[Gnomicide]

3 minutes ago, GETOFFAMYLAWN said:

My apologies. Should never had doubted Roger, a branch of my family are Daultreys, very respectable and un-noncey people.

He's a Brexit loving knob head though.

[Amy Lawn]

Just now, Gnomicide said:

He's a Brexit loving knob head though.

A rich boomer? Quelle surprise!

[TiZuff]

45 minutes ago, GETOFFAMYLAWN said:

The moment Kanye took to that stage was sheer brilliance. So many wanting him to fail, so many wanting him to be "replaced with a rock band", he didn't give those bastards a single inch. Completely empty stage with one lone rapper stood there, he lit the entire fucker up so you could see it was just him, and started belting out "That that don't kill me can only make me stronger".

Stone cold killer.

Such a great moment !

[TheNoise]

4 hours ago, thrillhouse188 said:

"I'm not condoning it but here are reasons why he totally deserves it".

 

Where did I say that ?

[thrillhouse188]

Just now, TheNoise said:

Where did I say that ?

You said you didn’t condone and then went on to list a bunch of reasons legitimising why people did it, rendering the ‘not condoning it’ statement pointless. Just admit you don’t like him and don’t care that people were racist and held up unsavoury flags about his wife  

[TheNoise]

3 hours ago, Divein said:

A few points I would like you to clear up

Sure

3 hours ago, Divein said:

Can you clarify what you mean by ‘brings it on himself’? 

I didn't say that.

3 hours ago, Divein said:

Why would his very clear mental health issues make him an ‘arsehole’?

I didn't say that either.

3 hours ago, Divein said:

Why did you choose to use Stormzy as an example and not any other band you don’t like? 

Similar music.

[TheNoise]

1 minute ago, thrillhouse188 said:

You said you didn’t condone and then went on to list a bunch of reasons legitimising why people did it, rendering the ‘not condoning it’ statement pointless. Just admit you don’t like him and don’t care that people were racist and held up unsavoury flags about his wife  

I do admit I don't like him, I don't admit the rest because it isn't true.

[thrillhouse188]

Just now, TheNoise said:

I do admit I don't like him, I don't admit the rest because it isn't true.

Then I’d suggest you take care in your wording, because the original post read like someone legitimising all of those things with a meaningless “I don’t condone it but...” to cover their tracks, but maybe I’m being too presumptuous ??‍♂️ 

[clarkete]

2 hours ago, GETOFFAMYLAWN said:

There's plenty of reason to take exception with The Rolling Stones for their tax evasion/Under My Thumb/Stray Cat Blues, Metallica for their bear hunting, The Who for the child porn on Pete Townshend's hard drive, Foo Fighters for promoting and funding AIDS denial that literally killed people, Muse for existing at all, but it's only Kanye that was met with such resistance. The last headliner to get such a negative reception was Jay-Z, with Noel Gallagher publicly saying hip-hop didn't belong at Glastonbury. Immediately after Kanye was announced there was a huge petition to "replace him with a rock band".

Some of the people who brought along heckling banners may not have had consciously racist reasons for doing so, but if they were too ignorant to see the clearly racist tone of the whole endeavour it doesn't excuse them.

Word is that Prince pulled out of talks when he saw that petition. We sometimes discuss on here why Glastonbury is so white when compared to the diversity of Britain, the line-up, and the wider world. There's a number of reasons why that is, but it definitely doesn't help when a very vocal minority of the audience take it upon themselves to wage a bullying campaign against very few black artists who take the step up to the top spot and white artists never face a jolt of opposition. You might think Kanye is an "arrogant knobhead" but fucking hell he's a pop star, it comes with the territory. Him being eccentric isn't out of the ordinary, but his treatment was. The message that comes across there is "this is a white space, you don't belong".

Clearly that's a gross simplification of Townsend's situation. I'm also wary about you shoving in the Prince rumour as though it's a fact to base your conclusions on. 

In the case of Jay Z that was a notoriously silly thing to do, the quote was thrown back in NGs face in fine style and he did eat some humble pie. 

http://exclaim.ca/amparticle/noel_gallagher_attempts_to_quash_jay-z

I've loved plenty of different artists over the decades at Glastonbury (including other hip hop) and I don't want anyone to think me not enjoying his show was anything more than it would be with any other set that wasn't floating my boat. 

 

[Divein]

3 minutes ago, TheNoise said:

I do admit I don't like him, I don't admit the rest because it isn't true.

Sorry, what do you mean by ‘kinda he invites it on himself’ then? 

[TheNoise]

2 hours ago, jyoung said:

Plot twist... You're the arse hole in this case, pal.

Why ?

Because I refuse to self flagellate over certain acts or pussy foot around ?

There's been much worse said on these boards about other acts who have done nothing wrong other than offend the ears of some members.

There's almost a full page in another thread talking about paedophile acts ffs. Or is that acceptable ?

[Neontiger90]

On 2/2/2019 at 4:21 PM, Superscally said:

You made a statement that had no evidence to say it was correct, dismissing a statement that had no evidence to say it was correct. Thought that was pretty obvious tbh...

Anytime I've posted info regarding The Killers on here it's been correct, regarding the secret set in 2017, TRNSMT, and the fact they'll be headlining multiple festivals this year tba. So only reason i said for certain that it was incorrect to say The Killers won't be headlining Glastonbury again, is because the person who gives me reliable information said the band have an agreement to headline Glastonbury again. And there's literally no reason for me to doubt them...

[TheNoise]

3 minutes ago, Divein said:

Sorry, what do you mean by ‘kinda he invites it on himself’ then? 

These were the words I used 'like he almost invites it'.

You know the way that some people would love to smack Justin Beiber in the face ? Like his behaviour almost invites it.

I didn't say KW deserved the type of abuse he got, nobody does. Does he deserve adoration ? Hell no. He supports a right wing racist president - and yes, the irony has been pointed out to him - that alone should tell you something about him.

[CaledonianGonzo]

14 minutes ago, TheNoise said:

Why ?

Because I refuse to self flagellate over certain acts or pussy foot around ?

There's been much worse said on these boards about other acts who have done nothing wrong other than offend the ears of some members.

Having a pop at an artist by attacking and slut-shaming his wife is misogyny, plain and simple.

[TheNoise]

6 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Having a pop at an artist by attacking and slut-shaming his wife is misogyny, plain and simple.

I wasn't there and I didn't do that.

If you were referring to my words, I didn't slut shame her, I called her a media whore, totally different.