Football 17/18

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2 hours ago, TheGayTent said:

Sullivan got what he wanted, ref had a shocker, though not as bad as 9 of our players, and Masuaku shouldn't wear the shirt ever again. 

Only positive - Wigan beer prices. 

To me that was about as much a nailed on shock as you could get. I didn't look at the odds but suspect the bookies agreed 

[The Nal]

But....but.... hes an eccentric likeable German...

[Hugh Jass]

Well that was fun.

[TheGayTent]

2 hours ago, pink_triangle said:

To me that was about as much a nailed on shock as you could get. I didn't look at the odds but suspect the bookies agreed 

Didn't take a genius did it

[ThomThomDrum]

2 hours ago, The Nal said:

But....but.... hes an eccentric likeable German...

You would have loved him at Utd. 

[mjsell]

Yeah, give me Klopp over Mourinho any day. As an Arsenal fan I was gutted when Klopp went to Liverpool - he was the one that I was hoping would replace Wenger.

[Wooderson]

Fair dues West Brom. Played great. Even a late draw wouldnt have been fair.

Manyoo fans slagging Klopp? Plus ça change. Will always prefer him to the meff in yer dugout.

btw Neil / Emre is gash.

[eFestivals]

58 minutes ago, Wooderson said:

btw Neil / Emre is gash.

yep, he was defo gash yesterday ... as seen before (tho no too much too recently) he can be too slow, and too confident in his ability to hold off another player. People ask what Hendo brings, but I think he showed the difference when he came on.

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So who's a fan of VAR then?

What do you think is more important, always having the right decision along with regular snoozes, or having a game of football?

Edited January 28, 2018 by eFestivals

[zahidf]

4 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

yep, he was defo gash yesterday ... as seen before (tho no too much too recently) he can be too slow, and too confident in his ability to hold off another player. People ask what Hendo brings, but I think he showed the difference when he came on.

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So who's a fan of VAR then?

What do you think is more important, always having the right decision along with regular snoozes, or having a game of football?

VAR is fine. Matches stopping for a min or 2 isnt the end of the world.

[eFestivals]

17 minutes ago, zahidf said:

VAR is fine. Matches stopping for a min or 2 isnt the end of the world.

VAR is for w*nkers, who think football should or can be perfect. It's a game. The clue is in the word.

Every suspect decision will stop the game, and as last night proved it's not for a minute or two. It's like giving the ref-surrounding w*nkers at Chelsea a final victory.

If VAR had existed since the dawn of football, football anything like we know it wouldn't exist. It would not be a game that tens of thousands of fans attend for excitement.

Edited January 28, 2018 by eFestivals

[pink_triangle]

Video assisted technology is great for tennis or cricket with natural breaks. If used in football it should be used for matter of fact like the ball crossing the line or mistaken identity. It shouldn't be used on subjective decisions about fouls.

[pink_triangle]

Can any of the Scottish contingent give me an opinion on David Raven who we have signed from Inverness. He was always a solid league 2ish standard player before he went to Scotland.

[TheGayTent]

9 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

Video assisted technology is great for tennis or cricket with natural breaks. If used in football it should be used for matter of fact like the ball crossing the line or mistaken identity. It shouldn't be used on subjective decisions about fouls.

Much of its use in cricket is shit too. It often doesn't assist in catches at all, and until the technology is more accurate the whole umpires call bollocks is exactly that. 

[zahidf]

37 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

VAR is for w*nkers, who think football should or can be perfect. It's a game. The clue is in the word.

Every suspect decision will stop the game, and as last night proved it's not for a minute or two. It's like giving the ref-surrounding w*nkers at Chelsea a final victory.

If VAR had existed since the dawn of football, football anything like we know it wouldn't exist. It would not be a game that tens of thousands of fans attend for excitement.

If fans, managers and pundits didnt jump down referees throats every five seconds over contentious decisions, maybe things would be different?

If you are getting death threats for a dodgy penalty decision, then im not suprised youd be in support of VAR to limit the amount of abuse youd get. 

[eFestivals]

36 minutes ago, zahidf said:

If fans, managers and pundits didnt jump down referees throats every five seconds over contentious decisions, maybe things would be different?

but now they're just jumping down their throat to review it by VAR.

It's changed nothing, apart from the length of time it goes on for - even longer!

36 minutes ago, zahidf said:

If you are getting death threats for a dodgy penalty decision, then im not suprised youd be in support of VAR to limit the amount of abuse youd get. 

So refs don't want to be responsible for giving decisions...?

It's fixing nothing. It's just opening up a whole new world of bollocks, while spoiling the game.

As far as i can make out the only people who like it are the people who think the rules are what makes the game appealing.

[mjsell]

The way VAR is presented and communicated is what needs to change. Refs need to be mic'd up to the broadcast so viewers can here the communication with 'the booth' and screens need to show it to fans in the crowd. A 2 minute break isn't too bad if people see/here the reasoning for the break - but when it's two minutes of Pausen with his finger to his ear looking clueless then you can kiss goodbye to any sort of atmosphere.

But it'd be an almighty step for grounds to suddenly start showing things that are being reviewed by var when they still don't show any form of replay that could be considered contentious 

[WS_Jack_III]

Been calling for VAR for years. It needs refining but getting the correct decision is always the most important thing.

[Hugh Jass]

People need to remember that VAR is brand new and there will be years of trial and refinements before it’s working in a decent way. Personally I’m not a fan, seemed to me last night that the refs were unwilling to give anything themselves, instead relying on the screens. There was one incident where we had about five players offside and the lino was unwilling to put his flag up.

This is just the start of a very long road.

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3 hours ago, WS_Jack_III said:

Been calling for VAR for years. It needs refining but getting the correct decision is always the most important thing.

I disagree, there are loads of decisions made in a football game. Many are incorrect and have no consequence. If your aiming for perfection you ruin the game.

[WS_Jack_III]

4 hours ago, pink_triangle said:

I disagree, there are loads of decisions made in a football game. Many are incorrect and have no consequence. If your aiming for perfection you ruin the game.

Surely the incorrect decisions are the ones that ruin the games.

[pink_triangle]

2 minutes ago, WS_Jack_III said:

Surely the incorrect decisions are the ones that ruin the games.

People only remember the incorrect decisions that have consequences. The majority of mistakes don't.

[eFestivals]

8 hours ago, WS_Jack_III said:

Been calling for VAR for years. It needs refining but getting the correct decision is always the most important thing.

I disagree.

Not spoiling the game called football is the most important thing.

[eFestivals]

16 minutes ago, WS_Jack_III said:

Surely the incorrect decisions are the ones that ruin the games.

Nope, they're what create the talking points which make the game interesting.

[kaosmark2]

I have no problem with automated technology (has the ball crossed the line, and potentially offside), but the ref wasting time in a game to check a decision ruins the flow of the game. Fuck video technology, particularly regarding any issues which involve potentially different interpretations of the rules.

[WS_Jack_III]

Agree to disagree with you all, I'd rather see the game fair than having to talk about how my team (or any team) was cheated of a point/all three.