Guy Incognito Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 can't wait until it's announced that the whole ''new normal'' thing has nothing to do with gender and all this discussion was a waste of time 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n=Nowheretohide Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, kalters said: You all are really acting like it would be impossible to get a beautiful line-up with a 50/50 split between male and female acts. Why? There have been so many good acts at Primavera in the last couple of years, some of which might even be some of my favourite concerts ever (Solange, Björk). If you look at the potential new pool of headliners, there's more men than women, which is not a fair representation of what the music world looks like right now. Primavera was and has always been a forward thinking festival and a perfect split between male and female acts will be a next successful step within that line of thinking. so you have meanaged to sum it all up waht's wrong with that and present it as a good thing.......criteria for artist should never be based on their sex race sexuality or political agenda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
festivalguy97 Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 51 minutes ago, Guy Incognito said: hahah there's about a dozen acts on there, mostly of whom would be on the undercard. Don't be so negative. The facts it there aren't that many headliner sized indie bands who are touring this year. Those that are, either dont fit PS' style (The 1975) or played very recently (The National, Bon Iver). Just give me a late night Death Grips set and i'll be happy. It´s poor for me not because of the quality of the artists but because there are very few rumours, this lineup is so unexpected, last year we knew from the rumours that Nick Cave, National and Bjork would headline, this year we only can put J Balvin as headliner, the whole lineup is a very big question mark, I´m so excited for Wednesday, I think they will surprise us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puckno Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 You should of course pay some attention or you might end up like Reading 2015https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/the-reading-leeds-2015-line-up-if-it-only-included-bands-with-female-members-looks-pretty-sparse-10068557.htm ... on the opposite you have festivals with attention to this matter (though on a smaller scale...) like e.g. https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/sep/08/end-of-the-road-festival-women-acts andhttps://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/ya-festival-in-norway-is-championing-women-in-music-with-50-of-its-acts-including-central-female-10364576.html However this should really be old news in 2019, and not a brand new gimmick. Though that being said it is still important to pay attention. Not to put it on top as the main booking criteria or anything, but still - awareness is good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalters Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, n=Nowheretohide said: so you have meanaged to sum it all up waht's wrong with that and present it as a good thing.......criteria for artist should never be based on their sex race sexuality or political agenda In an ideal world, yes, but we all know there's a lot of inequality in the festival world. In this case, I believe spreading awareness for taking sex into account is a thing the festival world will benefit from in the long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankburns Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 i still believe that the cure will be one of the headliners. and, yes, i know that they'll be at madcool... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaarlie Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, puckno said: You should of course pay some attention or you might end up like Reading 2015https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/the-reading-leeds-2015-line-up-if-it-only-included-bands-with-female-members-looks-pretty-sparse-10068557.htm and was one of the worst R&L lineups in recent years imo. Wireless is pretty terrible as well given the choice they have in the Pop/RnB genre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
festivalguy97 Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 I see on this forum that it´s a waste of time to try to change people´s minds about inequality and sexism, so you people who don´t agree with the 50:50 you always have a choice of not attending PS2019, nobody is obligated to pay money and see acts that you don´t like or don´t agree with, if you don´t support the idea it´s you problem, but it´s the reality and the NEW NORMAL of these days, so have to live with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n=Nowheretohide Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, festivalguy97 said: I see on this forum that it´s a waste of time to try to change people´s minds about inequality and sexism, so you people who don´t agree with the 50:50 you always have a choice of not attending PS2019, nobody is obligated to pay money and see acts that you don´t like or don´t agree with, if you don´t support the idea it´s you problem, but it´s the reality and the NEW NORMAL of these days, so have to live with that. wow man are you also vegan ? you have that ray of sunsine 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riseupandkill Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 florence just announced as a headliner for a day at BST, supported by the national - what with the national being a headliner at PS last year, shows what sort of scale she's at AND SHE'S FEMALE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n=Nowheretohide Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 I just had to 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Incognito Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 this thread has gone to shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaarlie Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 don't argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to your level and beat you with experience. We all agree: We want the best music We want to live in a world where the gender of artists isn't important its how good their music is that matters We want to feel everyone is represented I don't care how we get there as long as we do soon enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinivali Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 16 minutes ago, festivalguy97 said: I see on this forum that it´s a waste of time to try to change people´s minds about inequality and sexism, so you people who don´t agree with the 50:50 you always have a choice of not attending PS2019, nobody is obligated to pay money and see acts that you don´t like or don´t agree with, if you don´t support the idea it´s you problem, but it´s the reality and the NEW NORMAL of these days, so have to live with that. Well yeah, it's a good idea and everything, but if another festival happens to have a far better line-up and a let's say 65:35 gender split rather than 50:50, then most likely I would indeed be going to that other festival instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brayshizzle Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 The new normal logo I thought was a weird take on a NIN logo....anyway.... love and peace and all that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albinoss Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, Guy Incognito said: this thread has gone to shit I don't know if the interpretation of "the new normal" thing as a 50/50 male/female lineup will be proven correct, but it seems that for someone gender equality still isn't an important matter. It is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n=Nowheretohide Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 minute ago, brayshizzle said: The new normal logo I thought was a weird take on a NIN logo....anyway.... love and peace and all that... I thought the same but it doesnt have anything to do with NIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaarlie Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 Just now, n=Nowheretohide said: I thought the same but it doesnt have anything to do with NIN Maybe its a female coverband of NIN? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brayshizzle Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 Just now, n=Nowheretohide said: I thought the same but it doesnt have anything to do with NIN I know The New Normal sounds like a 1975 album name.... Just now, Chaarlie said: Maybe its a female coverband of NIN? Would make shouting "fist fuck" interesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaarlie Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 minute ago, brayshizzle said: I know The New Normal sounds like a 1975 album name.... Would make shouting "fist fuck" interesting... Thats about 10 words short of a 1975 album... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brayshizzle Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Chaarlie said: Thats about 10 words short of a 1975 album... The New Normal is the present for we live to long in the past. "The Kid A for Millennials 5/5" - NME 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaarlie Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, brayshizzle said: The New Normal is the present for we live to long in the past. "The Kid A for Millennials 5/5" - NME ? Can't wait for 10 years time when we're making lists of our favourite 1975 albums instead of talking about the actual thread! On a serious note I do think they'd be a good fit for this, are they free on the dates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Incognito Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Chaarlie said: ? Can't wait for 10 years time when we're making lists of our favourite 1975 albums instead of talking about the actual thread! On a serious note I do think they'd be a good fit for this, are they free on the dates? nah, they're in the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brayshizzle Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 10 minutes ago, Chaarlie said: ? Can't wait for 10 years time when we're making lists of our favourite 1975 albums instead of talking about the actual thread! On a serious note I do think they'd be a good fit for this, are they free on the dates? Its just going to be a list of abbreviations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boaboaboa Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 All Points East are doing an announcement at 9am tomorrow and the teaser has been announced in French... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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