Quark Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 35 minutes ago, SwedgeAntilles said: This is a pretty solid comparison. I get the timescale and nostalgia thing, but I would say that to your average radio listener Joe the Killers have more recognisable stuff. I would say no-Killers fans know more Killers songs than non-Strokes fans know Strokes songs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug85 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Quark said: I get the timescale and nostalgia thing, but I would say that to your average radio listener Joe the Killers have more recognisable stuff. I would say no-Killers fans know more Killers songs than non-Strokes fans know Strokes songs? This is true, Killers were more commercial IMO, they were certainly on the radio more over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Quark said: I get the timescale and nostalgia thing, but I would say that to your average radio listener Joe the Killers have more recognisable stuff. I would say no-Killers fans know more Killers songs than non-Strokes fans know Strokes songs? Agreed, The Strokes were big in indie circles but The Killers crosses into the mainstream with Mr Brightside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug85 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) Kings Of Leon seriously can't be anywhere near Glastonbury these days. They only really accept headline level and they are not going to be headlining Glastonbury again anytime soon. Edited January 24, 2020 by Doug85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Doug85 said: Kings Of Leon seriously can't be anywhere near Glastonbury these days. They only really accept headline level and they are not going to be headlining Glastonbury again anytime soon. So just like The Strokes 😋 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasperella Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 51 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said: Strap in for the Kings of Leon revival. Don't. Just, don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 14 minutes ago, Doug85 said: Kings Of Leon seriously can't be anywhere near Glastonbury these days. They only really accept headline level and they are not going to be headlining Glastonbury again anytime soon. We said that about the Killers. Never say never. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdm22 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) So just like The Strokes 😋 They are both boring live so yes 😁 *runs away quickly* Edited January 24, 2020 by cdm22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasperella Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 15 minutes ago, Quark said: I get the timescale and nostalgia thing, but I would say that to your average radio listener Joe the Killers have more recognisable stuff. I would say no-Killers fans know more Killers songs than non-Strokes fans know Strokes songs? As a obnoxious grunger who refused to listen to pretty much anything but nu-metal and NIN between 2001 and 2004, I can confirm that this is true. I hated their fucking "iconic" album cover with a passion though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wonderwhy Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Its a bit weird that the blanket assumption is The Strokes et al are turning down stuff they feel is below them when its more likely just the people who actually book these things still see them as the same safe booking they all were ten years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 18 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said: We said that about the Killers. Never say never. But we can say Not in 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said: But we can say Not in 2020 Damn skippy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadimmock Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 I’m really not a Killers fan, but as well as that “Wedding Song” they did have relatively popular singles from subsequent albums (MTV, Radio 1 and commercial radio play). I can’t recall ever hearing the Strokes anywhere vaguely mainstream after Is This It. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug85 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Do KOL have another album on the way? Can't imagine them accepting to play anywhere other than Pyramid headline. I have the fear for 2021 now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wro_lap Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Who’s headlining Friday night? Wrong answers only. The Fratellis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwedgeAntilles Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Doug85 said: Do KOL have another album on the way? Can't imagine them accepting to play anywhere other than Pyramid headline. I have the fear for 2021 now. See what you've started @CaledonianGonzo Edited January 24, 2020 by SwedgeAntilles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentalplan Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 2 hours ago, FloorFiller said: Maybe my memory's wrong but I'm pretty sure most on here where questioning whether The Strokes could sell a gig as big as Hyde Park at the time. They definitely weren't the calibre of act people were expecting for BST, and then they struggled to sell tickets, proving everybody right. If All Points East sometimes pick from a higher calibre of headliners then BST certainly went lower for The Strokes that year. Are we also gonna forget that Massive Attack did it the following year? Oh I had actually forgotten that, yeah. 1 hour ago, CaledonianGonzo said: Coming up for 10 years ago, that. It's not a static situation. The glow-up from selling 20k tickets pre-freebie in 2015 to selling 40k tickets across town in 2019 is testament to them having journeyed since then. 59 minutes ago, Doug85 said: This is true, Killers were more commercial IMO, they were certainly on the radio more over the years. It’s why they’re doing stadiums now and Strokes are doing the odd park in London. Still facing the same boost though, just like truckloads of noughties acts rn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
priest17 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 13 hours ago, CaledonianGonzo said: How / why I've managed to see Strokey and the lads 5 or 6 times over the years I've got no idea. Edwyn Collins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, dentalplan said: Oh I had actually forgotten that, yeah. The glow-up from selling 20k tickets pre-freebie in 2015 to selling 40k tickets across town in 2019 is testament to them having journeyed since then Should be noted that they would have been helped last year by having an absolutely stellar undercard - Raconteurs, Interpol, Marr, Parquet Courts... That’s an entire day programmed to appeal to indie kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Martini Police Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, dentalplan said: The glow-up from selling 20k tickets pre-freebie in 2015 to selling 40k tickets across town in 2019 is testament to them having journeyed since then. Just to add to this, it could've been a lot, lot more than 40k. It sold out early, there was huge demand and tickets going for well over £100 on resale sites. I don't think it's an exaggeration to suggest that day was 4 or more times more in-demand than CATQ's (using that example as I was there, but it applies to all of them to varying degrees). So I agree they can't just be equated and seen as 'APE headliner level'. The Killers, being one of the very biggest bands there is, are of course not a good comparison on popularity alone, but there's still a lot of underestimating of the Strokes going on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubber Soldier Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 14 hours ago, Damon said: Juicebox is a belter. Heart in a Cage is the best track on First Impressions... IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentalplan Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 oh god @priest17 you have to delete that before anyone sees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetaKate Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 I come in to a hot topic only to find people discussing the validity of the Strokes. Every band both is and is not big enough to headline. Every band both is and is not willing to take a non-headline spot. Some peoples assumptions are utterly bewildering. But I will say this... A close personal friend who's girlfriends sister once met the bloke from the strokes at a coldplay concert told me the band is actually afraid of cows. Dairy variety, specifically. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, dentalplan said: oh god @priest17 you have to delete that before anyone sees. The thought did cross my mind, but then my first gut reaction was to chuckle before thinking "bad man". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
priest17 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 14 minutes ago, dentalplan said: oh god @priest17 you have to delete that before anyone sees. We nearly made it a whole month without you telling me to delete one of my posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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