2020 Line-up Thread

[bobbyperu]

Arlo Parks has had to pull out of Latitude too. At least that means she should be ok for EOTR 👀

[goldengirl]

16 hours ago, bobbyperu said:

Arlo Parks has had to pull out of Latitude too. At least that means she should be ok for EOTR 👀

Yep, I do expect at least a couple of EOTR acts to cancel due to catching covid or getting pinged 😞

[paulwa]

Interesting points made in a BBC article about Latitude today. Artists having to keep their distance from each other backstage and effectively self isolate between gigs, otherwise they could knock themselves out of the next weekend’s festival. And then everyone would get Sleaford Mods. Sex, drugs & rock n roll on pause for now. 

[paulwa]

Lessons from Latitude article in today’s Guardian: they ran their Big Top marquee without sides on, they also ran cashless payments. Not sure the Tollard Royal mobile network is up to this without adding something extra for the weekend! Phone charging will be important if we go this route. 

[xxialac]

What we've learned on Covid is that airborne transmission is how people are catching it and as such having a more open Big Top and Tipi makes a lot of sense. The phrase should been Ventilation, Face, Space.

It might make vendors feel more comfortable having cashless but people simply aren't catching it from touching money.

[Dancers Stand Very Still]

3 hours ago, xxialac said:

What we've learned on Covid is that airborne transmission is how people are catching it and as such having a more open Big Top and Tipi makes a lot of sense. The phrase should been Ventilation, Face, Space.

It might make vendors feel more comfortable having cashless but people simply aren't catching it from touching money.

Agree with ventilation (which people have neglected due to the slogan you alluded to - aerosol specialists were aware very early on). There's still a general lack of awareness around aerosols though - I've built some analysis/apps recently for offices and been giving briefings as people return and its very obvious a mass information campaign is needed. 

Contactless payment though is great to save time! That should happen at all Fests, IMO. Worth noting that Latitude have temporary phone masts around the site to help, but the network has still not been smooth. 

[Dancers Stand Very Still]

I'd say the biggest lesson fron Latitude is something they haven't done and festivals rarely, if ever, do.

That would be reducing dust/PM and other pollutants. The smaller ones of those can carry the virus deep into lungs and also increase vulnerability and susceptibility to infection in the throat. They also make people sneeze and cough more, potentially increasing the amount of virus in the air. 

It's been very bad at Latitude - to the level where when your blow your nose, it's black (actually your nose hairs and snot doing their job). 

My recommendations on that going forward would be as many of the following as possible. Not all popular or realistic:

- no diesel / petrol generators. 

- damp down / cover dusty areas. 

- limit food stalls which fry or use fire. 

- ban smoking on site. 

- no dry ice etc. on stage. 

[robith]

7 hours ago, xxialac said:

What we've learned on Covid is that airborne transmission is how people are catching it and as such having a more open Big Top and Tipi makes a lot of sense. The phrase should been Ventilation, Face, Space.

It might make vendors feel more comfortable having cashless but people simply aren't catching it from touching money.

My office is open (we don't have to go in though, I go once a week for some deep work as it's very quiet) and they've put so much effort into trying to make it safe - yet there's performative hand washing everywhere and nothing about opening the windows. Maddening

[xxialac]

Queues supposedly much worse than usual for everything at Latitude.

Hope this doesn't play out at EOTR too. Have always felt everything has been easy in the past...

[Dancers Stand Very Still]

49 minutes ago, xxialac said:

Queues supposedly much worse than usual for everything at Latitude.

Hope this doesn't play out at EOTR too. Have always felt everything has been easy in the past...

This is my first Latitude, so have nothing to go on, but isn't it their first sell out in years? 

I reckon EotR will be fine, providing they can get their usual infrastructure. 

[benali]

37 minutes ago, JHad said:

This is my first Latitude, so have nothing to go on, but isn't it their first sell out in years? 

I reckon EotR will be fine, providing they can get their usual infrastructure. 

Unlikely to be the same at EotR unless they increase capacity. It sells out every year and the queues are never that bad apart from sometimes at the bar next to the Woods stage but that's also just down to me being crap at getting served.

Edited July 25, 2021 by benali

[robith]

2 hours ago, xxialac said:

Queues supposedly much worse than usual for everything at Latitude.

Hope this doesn't play out at EOTR too. Have always felt everything has been easy in the past...

Tbh I've only been once a fair time ago, but in noticed how on the Saturday which was way busier, it suddenly became queue central

[xxialac]

2 hours ago, JHad said:

This is my first Latitude, so have nothing to go on, but isn't it their first sell out in years? 

I reckon EotR will be fine, providing they can get their usual infrastructure. 

If a tonne of staff get pinged and can’t attend, invariably there will be issues.

Im expecting a tonne of disruption this year but will just be happy for it going  ahead.

[xxialac]

Day splits this week please!

[shoebox]

11 hours ago, xxialac said:

If a tonne of staff get pinged and can’t attend, invariably there will be issues.

Im expecting a tonne of disruption this year but will just be happy for it going  ahead.

You've got to remember that this is taking place after the changes in isolation rules following a "ping" (i.e. don't need to if double-jabbed and test negative), so it might not be as heavily hit as events taking place right now.

[xxialac]

22 minutes ago, shoebox said:

You've got to remember that this is taking place after the changes in isolation rules following a "ping" (i.e. don't need to if double-jabbed and test negative), so it might not be as heavily hit as events taking place right now.

True. Was also referring though to more bands pulling out than usual given travel issues, last minute cancellations, longer queues, things running out etc 

[RedRockRick]

22 hours ago, JHad said:

Agree with ventilation (which people have neglected due to the slogan you alluded to - aerosol specialists were aware very early on). There's still a general lack of awareness around aerosols though - I've built some analysis/apps recently for offices and been giving briefings as people return and its very obvious a mass information campaign is needed. 

Contactless payment though is great to save time! That should happen at all Fests, IMO. Worth noting that Latitude have temporary phone masts around the site to help, but the network has still not been smooth. 

My only experience with the cashless system was at Black Deer in 2019. It was fine except the organisers charged the traders a 15% levy on sales for the facility, which naturally got passed on and was reflected in prices.

[shoebox]

Interesting to note that All Points East have announced additions to their line-ups today and Tune-Yards and Whitney are still on their bill. I know many in here were expecting them to be dropped from EOTR due to not being UK based, but it looks like they're still clinging on. 

Maybe they are living over here at the moment or something?

[RedRockRick]

46 minutes ago, shoebox said:

Interesting to note that All Points East have announced additions to their line-ups today and Tune-Yards and Whitney are still on their bill. I know many in here were expecting them to be dropped from EOTR due to not being UK based, but it looks like they're still clinging on. 

Maybe they are living over here at the moment or something?

She asked nicely, so I lent my second tent to Merrill Garbus back in June.

[Nick07]

3 hours ago, shoebox said:

Interesting to note that All Points East have announced additions to their line-ups today and Tune-Yards and Whitney are still on their bill. I know many in here were expecting them to be dropped from EOTR due to not being UK based, but it looks like they're still clinging on. 

Maybe they are living over here at the moment or something?

Whitney are in the States still looking at that social media

[Sean1234321]

Days splits must surely be released by next friday when the twickets resale starts...

[WFD]

If it wasn't already known Arab Strap are playing on the Thursday (they've just announced a Friday date to add to their Saturday and Sunday dates already scheduled).

[SweepingTheNation]

On 7/26/2021 at 11:38 AM, shoebox said:

Interesting to note that All Points East have announced additions to their line-ups today and Tune-Yards and Whitney are still on their bill. I know many in here were expecting them to be dropped from EOTR due to not being UK based, but it looks like they're still clinging on. 

Maybe they are living over here at the moment or something?

Don't think so. I imagine for non-Brits still listed for festivals it'll be a case of still playing until they say they can't, but it's not like they won't have assumed there'd be no quarantine period when they confirmed. For another case, the Goon Sax are still advertising their tour starting on the 1st. It may be worth watching for what happens with Thundercat at Green Man.

If you haven't seen the message just now, tickets are being sent out on Friday. I imagine we'll get confirmation of entry requirements at that stage.

Edited July 27, 2021 by SweepingTheNation

[Tomos_]

16 minutes ago, WFD said:

If it wasn't already known Arab Strap are playing on the Thursday (they've just announced a Friday date to add to their Saturday and Sunday dates already scheduled).

Arab Strap into Stereolab is a pretty strong Thursday line up

[SweepingTheNation]

Don't know if this has been mentioned but Jonny Greenwood is on Saturday according to the site of his collaborators 12Ensemble.