Corona Virus - Should we be worried?

[Crazyfool01]

55 minutes ago, Ayrshire Chris said:

fiver for a dozen cans in tescos, buy buy buy ! 

You’ve got a beans problem !! 

[TownesMR]

IQ are followed on twitter by some very reputable Canadian music press/organizations. Good news!

[Gilb]

Whatever happens I have my time off and a motorhome booked, so I will be down at the farm at the end of June regardless. I dare say many others will have the same impulse.

Might make for an interesting alt-fest 😁

[Crazyfool01]

Cant that owl take flight along with that chicken .... im glad im not following his tweets 

[charlierc]

25 minutes ago, tigger123 said:

 

23 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

‘No way Glastonbury is happening’ apparently...

I like the fact these two posts appeared back-to-back.

[Yellow Chicken]

3 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

Cant that owl take flight along with that chicken .... im glad im not following his tweets 

Oi the Chickens know the festival is going ahead as planned that's why the first announcement is scheduled for next week.

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, Yellow Chicken said:

Oi the Chickens know the festival is going ahead as planned that's why the first announcement is scheduled for next week.

oh not the yellow and blue ones apologies ..... Id forgotten about you guys .... it was the other one id like to give the bird to 

[chazwwe]

32 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

‘No way Glastonbury is happening’ apparently...

According to who? 

[TownesMR]

1 minute ago, chazwwe said:

According to who? 

Someone earlier today said it, I believe Ozanne wrote that to make fun of them.

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, chazwwe said:

According to who? 

I was mocking a previous post a few pages back that said those exact words, pointing out the silly hyperbole.

Edited March 2, 2020 by Ozanne

[guypjfreak]

All be camping in the garden listening to a locked in BBC radio station doing shit loads of pills that you'd got for your mates.. 

And it'll be lovely and sunny lol

Chin up old sons gardenbury be great 

 

[TorontoScot]

A bit of positive..ish news (though Australia has lower numbers than the UK)

 

Australia: No evidence of sustained community transmission

Australia’s chief medical officer, Brendan Murphy, is speaking now.

He says his teams are concentrating on containment, but says there is no evidence of sustained community transmission in Australia, despite two suspected cases on Monday.

There is no reason for people to stop going to mass gatherings on stop going about their normal business. Our focus is now on return travellers. If you have comeback from one of the countries where coronavirus is particularly a high-risk country.

 

[Queen_of_rabbits]

I'm not going to speculate about whether or not Glasto wiill be cancelled but given that day time temperatures in Europe can still be in the mid teens come May, it's very likely the summer heat won't "kill the virus" before it has a chance to hit critical mass in terms of infections per day. At which point and this is a little more speculative but if there's so many active cases by the time summer rolls around, will it matter if the higher air temperatures kills the virus on surfaces in less than 24 hours, if so many people are infected anyway?

That still increases the odds of transmission a lot, I'd wager.

Worth noting that someone with Corona infects (average) 2.5-2.9 people (making it more infectious than the Spanish flu), hence the near exponential increase we see in cases outside China. This is very unlikely to slow down over the next few weeks and if it continues at its current rate, we may see a million new cases per day by May

There's a very very good reason that the government's worst case scenario proposes that 80% of the country will be infected (more conservative figures suggest 40-70% of the planet may become infected).

Also, note that the government's plan is structured around mitigating the effects of the virus, not preventing it. A tacit admission that the risk of a pandemic is high.

(The virus isn't overwhelmingly dangerous unless you're old - death rate low and even risk of complications beyond flu symptoms is 20%~, so people shouldn't overly stress, though take precautions if you are vulnerable. The real issue is magnitude re: the amount of people it can infect, rather than the rate of mortality in isolated subjects)

Edited March 3, 2020 by Queen_of_rabbits

[Reckoner]

The differing appetites for risk between the countries is interesting to watch with regard to cancelling events, especially from Singapore that was the 2^nd place to really be affected

Japan are obviously shit scared about the Olympics and are shutting everything down, lots of pressure to cancel events. No interested in managed containment, just trying to reduce the number. Also to blame for a number of Asian tours being cancelled as they aren’t really worth the effort if you can’t make the Tokyo money.

Singapore going with proactive contact tracing. Events are being cancelled, but they are mostly the ones that don’t want to work with the Ministry of Health. Garden Beats (Foals will be involved in all topics…) went ahead without issue with temperature checks at the gate and as much hand sanitizer available as beer. A city full of masks and panic buying 3 weeks ago off the back off all the Lunar New Year travel has mostly returned to normal.

Australia is trying to have a bet each way, wanting to stop new cases, but not tank the economy by shutting everything down. Travel Bans from known hotspots, self-isolation people with symptoms  but still encouraging normal daily life and no risk of mass gathering events being cancelled (and to stop buying toilet paper). I imagine the UK will follow that path. Shutting down events is pointless if you still have 200,000 people passing through Heathrow or 5 million passenger movements per day on the tube (although this would be lower with working from home and noted that’s a total and not individual people). Generally all of the countries with an advanced medical system state in their literature that cancelling events will have a minimal overall effect in stopping spread, and that many of the tactics being put in place already are more beneficial.

South Korea, Iran and Northern Italy are a small worry,  but there are more examples of countries being proactive and managing the risk well than those who have not.

For me though, and as mentioned by many in here, if we get to the point that the festival is cancelled, we’ll surely have a lot more to be worried about with entire cities being in Lockdown.

[squirrelarmy]

Good news everyone. The Pope has tested negative. You can all go back to kissing his ring once again. 

[Earth_pig]

3 hours ago, Gregfc15 said:

The differing appetites for risk between the countries is interesting to watch with regard to cancelling events, especially from Singapore that was the 2^nd place to really be affected

Japan are obviously shit scared about the Olympics and are shutting everything down, lots of pressure to cancel events. No interested in managed containment, just trying to reduce the number. Also to blame for a number of Asian tours being cancelled as they aren’t really worth the effort if you can’t make the Tokyo money.

Singapore going with proactive contact tracing. Events are being cancelled, but they are mostly the ones that don’t want to work with the Ministry of Health. Garden Beats (Foals will be involved in all topics…) went ahead without issue with temperature checks at the gate and as much hand sanitizer available as beer. A city full of masks and panic buying 3 weeks ago off the back off all the Lunar New Year travel has mostly returned to normal.

Australia is trying to have a bet each way, wanting to stop new cases, but not tank the economy by shutting everything down. Travel Bans from known hotspots, self-isolation people with symptoms  but still encouraging normal daily life and no risk of mass gathering events being cancelled (and to stop buying toilet paper). I imagine the UK will follow that path. Shutting down events is pointless if you still have 200,000 people passing through Heathrow or 5 million passenger movements per day on the tube (although this would be lower with working from home and noted that’s a total and not individual people). Generally all of the countries with an advanced medical system state in their literature that cancelling events will have a minimal overall effect in stopping spread, and that many of the tactics being put in place already are more beneficial.

South Korea, Iran and Northern Italy are a small worry,  but there are more examples of countries being proactive and managing the risk well than those who have not.

For me though, and as mentioned by many in here, if we get to the point that the festival is cancelled, we’ll surely have a lot more to be worried about with entire cities being in Lockdown.

I agree with this.

I don't really understand why I can still get the tube to work and travel freely around London enjoy the parks etc and mingle with people who could have travelled from anywhere + I've just come from Luton airport where there was absolutely no new precautions apart from signs stuck on the wall.

But Glastonbury in the end of June is definitely likely to be cancelled ? 

if there are million new infections a day and people are dropping like flies then obviously it won't be a priority.

But it's seems like some people on here are scaremongering and if are so sure should probably put their tickets back in the resale.

[Frankly Mr Shankly]

8 hours ago, Gilb said:

Whatever happens I have my time off and a motorhome booked, so I will be down at the farm at the end of June regardless. I dare say many others will have the same impulse.

Might make for an interesting alt-fest 😁

Not to sound like a dick, but this would be a dick move. IF it gets to a point where it does get cancelled, it will be for a very genuine reason. Attitudes like this won't help & if everybody took that selfish stance about things in their life being affected then the chance of containing it would be impossible. 

Here's hoping it doesn't get to that point though. I say take the attitude that it's business as usual unless we hear otherwise. Nobody has a crystal ball so nobody can say with any certainty either way what the situation will be like come June and really that should be the end of the debate for now. 

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

83 pages in a month. There's an irony of how this thread has grown exponentially. Almost viral itself. 

[guypjfreak]

24 minutes ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said:

83 pages in a month. There's an irony of how this thread has grown exponentially. Almost viral itself. 

Not bad for first post.. As I was made aware of today.. It must have broken all efest records lol. 

[Andy0808 v5]

The original poster hasn’t been seen since early February.. I think it’s safe to assume, he’s fallen to the virus.

[So Sad Simon]

37 minutes ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said:

83 pages in a month. There's an irony of how this thread has grown exponentially. Almost viral itself. 

It's also interesting how the Glastonbury forum devotes 83 pages to coronavirus discussions whereas some of the mainland European festival forums have barely even mentioned it.

Efestivals Glastonbury Forum = The new Mumsnet   

[morph100]

2 minutes ago, So Sad Simon said:

Efestivals Glastonbury Forum = The new Mumsnet   

Hahaha brilliant!

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

3 minutes ago, Andy0808 v5 said:

The original poster hasn’t been seen since early February.. I think it’s safe to assume, he’s fallen to the virus.

Poster Zero 

[gmb1992]

3 minutes ago, So Sad Simon said:

It's also interesting how the Glastonbury forum devotes 83 pages to coronavirus discussions whereas some of the mainland European festival forums have barely even mentioned it.

Efestivals Glastonbury Forum = The new Mumsnet   

We're all very in need of a poster/ line up announcement to remind ourselves why we're really here, but in the meantime this and the fitness thread keep me going

[Hugh Jass]

4 minutes ago, So Sad Simon said:

It's also interesting how the Glastonbury forum devotes 83 pages to coronavirus discussions whereas some of the mainland European festival forums have barely even mentioned it.

Efestivals Glastonbury Forum = The new Mumsnet   

It’s been Mumsnet for years... have you read the camping essentials thread?