When will this shit end?

[Deaf Nobby Burton]

9 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Did you see the comments today from JVT at the presser? Antibodies are confirmed so now it’s just to see if that gives immunity.

I did but I had it on in the background so didn’t catch all of it. I heard the question but not all of his response. Even if It doesn’t give immunity you would hope having the antibodies would make it less serious than it otherwise might have been first time around. 

[Guest]

Another stupid question - how come we are getting so many new cases when we’ve been in lockdown for 6 weeks?

[Crazyfool01]

9 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Another stupid question - how come we are getting so many new cases when we’ve been in lockdown for 6 weeks?

Lots of key workers and hospital /care workers still getting infected would be my guess ... still huge numbers out and about and more tests ... will show these up now 

[zahidf]

36 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Another stupid question - how come we are getting so many new cases when we’ve been in lockdown for 6 weeks?

Because of the massive increase in testing

[zahidf]

Gah

 

 

[Ayrshire Chris]

2 hours ago, crazyfool1 said:

Lots of key workers and hospital /care workers still getting infected would be my guess ... still huge numbers out and about and more tests ... will show these up now 

That’s very true, in one care home on the island of Skye 30 residents and 27 staff have tested positive. There are only 34 residents in that home at the moment so basically the virus has swept through the home. An army testing unit has moved in. 

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, Ayrshire Chris said:

That’s very true, in one care home on the island of Skye 30 residents and 27 staff have tested positive. There are only 34 residents in that home at the moment so basically the virus has swept through the home. An army testing unit has moved in. 

Saw that on the news tonight ... that’s horrendous and potentially the reason the nhs wasn’t overwhelmed the fact the care homes have taken up the flack  

[Guest]

Apparently there’s talk that this NHS X app the government has put together will only work if the user has their phone unlocked. Surely they can’t be that dumb to make it like that?

 

The one they turned down from Apple/Google would’ve run in the background. 

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, Ozanne said:

Apparently there’s talk that this NHS X app the government has put together will only work if the user has their phone unlocked. Surely they can’t be that dumb to make it like that?

 

The one they turned down from Apple/Google would’ve run in the background. 

Please no  

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, crazyfool1 said:

Please no  does anyone operate with an unlocked phone ? 

Edited May 4, 2020 by crazyfool1
Oops meant to edit last post rather than quote myself

[stuartbert two hats]

3 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Apparently there’s talk that this NHS X app the government has put together will only work if the user has their phone unlocked. Surely they can’t be that dumb to make it like that?

 

The one they turned down from Apple/Google would’ve run in the background. 

It apparently the contract has been given to one of Cummings' family?

[mattiloy]

Just now, stuartbert two hats said:

It apparently the contract has been given to one of Cummings' family?

Yeah i read for 250mil, fasttracked through without a proper tender process. I think i read it on twitter comments so not a solid gold source but we shall see, if theres a story there, it'll surely come out.

But not a stretch to think of cummings getting super horny at the chance of getting everybody's personal data.

[Crazyfool01]

That’s going to be a major influencer on my downloading of it ... I was 100% going to do it .. 

[Guest]

19 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

That’s going to be a major influencer on my downloading of it ... I was 100% going to do it .. 

I think the app will need to be running with the screen on and unlocked to work. Which would be a huge drain on battery too.

 

Don’t worry Apple are still going to release their app too which sounds like it’ll be much better.

[Leyrulion]

4 hours ago, Ozanne said:

Another stupid question - how come we are getting so many new cases when we’ve been in lockdown for 6 weeks?

Beware of detection bias. Back in early April we could do 16k tests and one day I think detected about 8k positives so 50% of tests 

Today there were 85k tests and 4k positives, 4.5% tests. 

We weren't detecting anywhere close to all the cases back in early April, not least because the criteria for who could get a test was limited due to capacity. 

[Smeble]

The not so United Kingdom all appear to be doing their own thing🙄🙄🙄

people also seem to have got used to sitting at home doing bugger all for 80% salary, unions being unions means getting back to normal will be a nightmare.

glad I’m out of here in July.

[gigpusher]

20 hours ago, JoeyT said:

Think you're right on judgement calls.

It's a tough one, I'm quite relaxed about it (I'd let them cuddle / hold her now) but my Wife is more of a rule follower!

Yes it's a tough one for sure. I suppose once the number of cases goes down massively then the odds of someone being infected also goes down which would hopefully help with the risk. 

 

[zahidf]

Ha bloody twat. Should have arrested him 

[jparx]

First French case now confirmed to be December https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52526554

[philipsteak]

10 hours ago, Ozanne said:

Apparently there’s talk that this NHS X app the government has put together will only work if the user has their phone unlocked. Surely they can’t be that dumb to make it like that?

 

The one they turned down from Apple/Google would’ve run in the background. 

I refer you to everything else they've done so far

[zahidf]

 

 

[Deaf Nobby Burton]

35 minutes ago, jparx said:

First French case now confirmed to be December https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52526554

This is very good news, it can only mean a lot more people have had it than suspected.

I’ve said this all along and often been derided for it. It’s stands to reason that in the early days it wouldn’t have been picked up, nobody would’ve suspected a few extra pneumonia cases and it would’ve easily slipped through the net in most countries. Not to mention that it was probably in China maybe as early as October or certainly November, then in the globalised world we live in for nobody to travel from China with it to other parts of the world between November - January would’ve been some sort of miracle.

[jparx]

Just now, Deaf Nobby Burton said:

This is very good news, it can only mean a lot more people have had it than suspected.

I’ve said this all along and often been derided for it. It’s stands to reason that in the early days it wouldn’t have been picked up, nobody would’ve suspected a few extra pneumonia cases and it would’ve easily slipped through the net in most countries. Not to mention that it was probably in China maybe as early as October or certainly November, then in the globalised world we live in for nobody to travel from China with it to other parts of the world between November - January would’ve been some sort of miracle.

Aye, must mean the numbers who have had it with no/mild symptoms is much higher than first thought.

My grandad had a really nasty respiratory virus over Christmas that took him a good 3 weeks to shake. Just makes me wonder now if that was it? Looking back, his symptoms were identical, He's very healthy and he never needed to go to hospital, but he was really struggling with it. Always thought it was too early, but if the virus has potentially been around earlier than we thought, then who knows. Hope so, at least, because it (hopefully) could mean he's got some immunity to it!

[Wellyboot]

my dad's absolutely convinced he had it in December, felt absolutely rotten for 2 weeks coughing and a fever and really achey but at the time just put it down to a bug or something. Maybe he did!

[Deaf Nobby Burton]

5 minutes ago, jparx said:

Aye, must mean the numbers who have had it with no/mild symptoms is much higher than first thought.

My grandad had a really nasty respiratory virus over Christmas that took him a good 3 weeks to shake. Just makes me wonder now if that was it? Looking back, his symptoms were identical, He's very healthy and he never needed to go to hospital, but he was really struggling with it. Always thought it was too early, but if the virus has potentially been around earlier than we thought, then who knows. Hope so, at least, because it (hopefully) could mean he's got some immunity to it!

We need a decent and widely available antibody test to confirm, but ultimately the earlier it was here the better really. I know it’s all anecdotal but I know so many people who have had similar things to your grandad. I mean some of them could’ve been flu, but the last time I actually had flu was at least 10 years ago. For most fit healthy people they don’t get flu every year, they get it every so often. If it was here in December or even January, the fact that our peak was in April means that hopefully easing lockdown should be that much easier in terms of doing so and avoiding a bigger spike.

Edited May 5, 2020 by Deaf Nobby Burton