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When will this shit end?


Chrisp1986

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So I can’t go and sit in my parents garden whilst social distancing at more than 2m  despite me and them isolating ... but I can meet one of my parents to go for a walk around the park whilst exhaling air in their face ? Now to decide if it’s mum or dad I choose !! 

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8 hours ago, DeanoL said:

This government policy ensures it's the working classes, poor, and stupid who will get ill, and not Tory voters.

This is where the argument falls apart. In 2019 it’s not rich v poor. The working classes came out in their droves in old industrial towns to vote conversative. The working class is the conservative voter base. The city work from home lot all seem to vote labour.

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26 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

The whole lockdown thing was to protect the NHS being overwhelmed, it wasn't about saving lives. 60k deaths by the end of the summer?

Potentially. And to any thick as shit people who want to say that the flu is more deadly. Annually 10,000 people in the U.K. die of the flu, and we have had 30,000 deaths in five months.

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7 hours ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Oh yeah, I'm not disagreeing with you, I've seen socially distanced plans for seated gigs and the cinema seems if anything easier to plan in that way. It's just not for me - at least until there is more data.

Yeah I'm the same. Can't see me wanting to go to anything like that for quite some time, mainly because we want to see our parents without the fear of killing them.

Woke up feeling pretty miserable today to be honest. I still count myself as incredibly lucky as can work from home and not at risk, but this just all seems so badly managed and shambolic. Feels like we are going to be fucked by this for a long time whatever happens.

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1 minute ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

Yeah I'm the same. Can't see me wanting to go to anything like that for quite some time, mainly because we want to see our parents without the fear of killing them.

Woke up feeling pretty miserable today to be honest. I still count myself as incredibly lucky as can work from home and not at risk, but this just all seems so badly managed and shambolic. Feels like we are going to be fucked by this for a long time whatever happens.

I’m feeling today that there is more chance of getting the government being forced out because of this shambolic situation than there being any chance of them getting some kind of grip on the situation 

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Say what you will about piers and Susanna but they’ve been asking “can I go and see family members” and they’ve got a different response from every conservative mp they have asked. Andrew Brigen has said that if you are 2m apart from others it’s impossible to get the virus.

We are run by a party of donkeys who don’t have a clue!

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1 minute ago, Matt42 said:

This is where the argument falls apart. In 2019 it’s not rich v poor. The working classes came out in their droves in old industrial towns to vote conversative. The working class is the conservative voter base. The city work from home lot all seem to vote labour.

True, if the death count was fivefold it wouldn't matter so long as they GET ARE COUNTRY BACK

Lemmings

But chin up folks, here in sweden, whilst you lot have been in lockdown, I've been to the pub probs once a week, played footie and been in to work roughly 40% of the working days, i think I'm probably something like the average. Social contact is toned down but still very much there. But, the r keeps coming down, we are also over the (first and hopefully worst) peak. So it would be weird if opening the UK to some lesser extent should result in some mad spiral upwards. 

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The problem we have is that the vast majority of people voted for a government who would always put the economy ahead of health. Once they made the ridiculous decision not to lock down earlier and not to quarantine any new arrivals to the island that we live on then getting the number of cases to a level that would be next to no cases was going to be as likely as squeezing all the toothpaste from a tube and then managing to get it back in the tube without causing any mess ie impossible. 

I didn't vote for them and I hate that we are effectively sacrificing peoples lives but that is the strategy they chose and we will have to live with it  (or die with it) and risk assess until a vaccine is found. I just hope at some point people realise what monsters we have in government and that this policy is what eventually finishes them off but even now people seem more likely to blame their neighbour Margaret who went for a second walk and saw her daughter through a window than Boris the buffoon and Cummings the serial killer. 

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5 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

Good luck to any police officer trying to enforce any kind of increased fine now ...  I don’t even think boris said what that would be ? 

Yup. What exactly is a finable offence?

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Just now, crazyfool1 said:

Ffs ... why can’t I meet them where it is safer in their garden ? Without hugs !! 

I guess because if it's public people will be more likely to follow restrictions and you can monitor it easier? They might be more tempted to go for a hug etc. if they meet up on their property, in private? I mean, most of this is reading between their incredibly vague lines though.

 

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48 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

Yeah I'm the same. Can't see me wanting to go to anything like that for quite some time, mainly because we want to see our parents without the fear of killing them.

Woke up feeling pretty miserable today to be honest. I still count myself as incredibly lucky as can work from home and not at risk, but this just all seems so badly managed and shambolic. Feels like we are going to be fucked by this for a long time whatever happens.

I get that, I’ve woken up in a foul mood today because of this. Also on my FB if you dare criticise you just get patronised, I got accused of not understand what the PM was saying. 

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