Matt42 Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said: Guitars are well and truly out of fashion aren’t they? Anyone can play guitar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProperTea Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 11 hours ago, Hugh Jass said: Credibility is definitely the key word here. It’s not enough to simply sell shit tonnes of records. You need the Guardian/NME/any other serious music publication seal of approval before you’ll be considered headline worthy. Taylor, Beyoncé, Billie, Adele… they all have it and have or will headline. The likes of 1D, Take That/Robbie, Pink, Spice Girls… they do not and will never headline regardless of how many records they shift. Harry Styles latest album achieved a 4 star review in NME and the Guardian. NME said "Styles’ second album is a total joy. It’s an elegant combination of the ex-boybander’s influences, slick modern pop and his own roguish charm." It scored higher than the last Arctics album. I can absolutely see him headlining. Him and Eilish would be like the Jay-Z booking in 2009: majorly criticised but opening the door to a new type of act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloorFiller Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, ProperTea said: Harry Styles latest album achieved a 4 star review in NME and the Guardian. NME said "Styles’ second album is a total joy. It’s an elegant combination of the ex-boybander’s influences, slick modern pop and his own roguish charm." It scored higher than the last Arctics album. I can absolutely see him headlining. Him and Eilish would be like the Jay-Z booking in 2009: majorly criticised but opening the door to a new type of act. One writer at Rolling Stone seems to have a huge thing for him and as well as giving the latest album a glowing review, also managed to slip it in to the updated ‘500 greatest albums of all time’ list. Pretty funny. I could perhaps see him doing it in the future. Seemed like an absurd suggestion a few years ago, but with the headliner pool shrinking and him managing to shake off the One Direction/X Factor attachment with ease whilst maintaining the megastardom he seems like a reasonable choice a few years down the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 42 minutes ago, MEGABOWL said: Plus there’s be a lot of foot stamping and hissyfitting on some parts of the Internet. This'll happen regardless. It won't be as bad as when they booked Kanye and suddenly Neil Lonsdale was in the news and Emily was getting death threats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 Just now, FloorFiller said: whilst maintaining the megastardom he seems like a reasonable choice a few years down the line. This is all sounding a bit like when we were debating whether Billie was an option. “A few years down the line” then quickly becomes next year or the year after. These emerging headline choices tend to hurtle at you rather than take years and years to materialise. In my view if he headlines it will be in either 2022, 2023, 2024 or not at all. I don’t see 2022 due to what we know, but 2023 is a real option if his next album (likely out soon) is a smash. After that I think it won’t hit the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprefan Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said: Guitars are well and truly out of fashion aren’t they? Plenty of guitars 🤷🏻♂️ Phoebe Grupo Firme King Gizzard Omar Apollo Idles The Marias Spiritualized Mika Badbadnotgood Pup The regrettes Amyl and the sniffers The chats The hu Code orange Lawrence Girl in red Wallows Cuco Turnstile Arlo parks Japanese breakfast Beach bunny Black midi Inner wave Nilufer yanga Beach goons Mannequin pussy Yard act Banda Ms Maneskin Fred again Chicano batman Orville peck Beabadoobee Belly Alec benjamin Surf curse Yola Crumb Viagra boys Skeggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Suprefan said: Plenty of guitars 🤷🏻♂️ Phoebe Grupo Firme King Gizzard Omar Apollo Idles The Marias Spiritualized Mika Badbadnotgood Pup The regrettes Amyl and the sniffers The chats The hu Code orange Lawrence Girl in red Wallows Cuco Turnstile Arlo parks Japanese breakfast Beach bunny Black midi Inner wave Nilufer yanga Beach goons Mannequin pussy Yard act Banda Ms Maneskin Fred again Chicano batman Orville peck Beabadoobee Belly Alec benjamin Surf curse Yola Crumb Viagra boys Skeggs Not at the top end of the lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 Would prefer Hazza to the George Ezra / Lewis Capaldi axis of evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 Just now, CaledonianGonzo said: Would prefer Hazza to the George Ezra / Lewis Capaldi axis of evil. Preferred Capaldi position is him watching at home live tweeting to the big screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprefan Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said: Not at the top end of the lineup. Doesnt bother me too too much. Yes, I am wildy upset no Rage, but I cant control Zach's decision making. They have 3 other festivals with all the guitars you can handle anyway. Lets get into the spicy stuff. They updated their pricing. Tier 4 ga and vip is what theyll be selling Friday along with Tier 2 GA w/ shuttle. And Weekend 1 is sold out. Glasto still a bargain for years to come. That list doesnt even include Safari Tents or Platinum Estates. Edited January 13, 2022 by Suprefan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Suprefan said: Doesnt bother me too too much. Yes, I am wildy upset no Rage, but I cant control Zach's decision making. They have 3 other festivals with all the guitars you can handle anyway. Lets get into the spicy stuff. They updated their pricing. Tier 4 ga and vip is what theyll be selling Friday along with Tier 2 GA w/ shuttle. And Weekend 1 is sold out. Glasto still a bargain for years to come. That list doesnt even include Safari Tents or Platinum Estates. That just looks awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 Those 'Convenience Fees' look a bit cheeky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 17 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said: Would prefer Hazza to the George Ezra / Lewis Capaldi axis of evil. And way more likely to get the gig before them too. He has that global starpower which they don’t have. He’s actually so famous globally you forget he’s a British act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Matt42 said: And way more likely to get the gig before them too. He has that global starpower which they don’t have. He’s actually so famous globally you forget he’s a British act. Glastonbury have never really bothered too much with talent show acts (rightly or wrongly, I’m not here to argue that). Would they break that to put one top of the bill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouseboy11 Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 Harry Styles has jaunted round America for two years, sat on my money and not bothered to reschedule his U.K Tour still so he can get to fuck tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 Just now, Hugh Jass said: Glastonbury have never really bothered too much with talent show acts (rightly or wrongly, I’m not here to argue that). Would they break that to put one top of the bill? They booked Camila for 2020 and Lucy Spraggan recently. But you are right it would be a bold move. The question is can we divorce his X factor connection from our mind? He’s trying his best to shake it and it’s not an easy job. You can’t say he is similar at all to James Arthur or any of the other winners. He probably hates X Factor as much as you do. Glastonbury has a history of giving British acts who have built a global reputation a headline slot on the pointy one. Just like Muse, Coldplay, Adele, Arctic Monkeys, Ed Sheeran etc all managed to build careers for themselves across the world. We really should be talking about Harry in the same regard, as an act managing to have Coachella as their first big festival headlining gig (before doing your Glasto, Reading, TRNSMT, BST etc gigs) is a massive and rare achievement. It’s quite remarkable when you write it down actually. Also I’m just going to say it, sign of the times is still an incredible pop song. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnomicide Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 What the fuck is a convenience fee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkic Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 55 minutes ago, ProperTea said: Harry Styles latest album achieved a 4 star review in NME and the Guardian. NME said "Styles’ second album is a total joy. It’s an elegant combination of the ex-boybander’s influences, slick modern pop and his own roguish charm." It scored higher than the last Arctics album. I can absolutely see him headlining. Him and Eilish would be like the Jay-Z booking in 2009: majorly criticised but opening the door to a new type of act. There’s been plenty of pop acts in recent years so it’s not really a new type of act. The major criticism would probably be the same tired “not guitar music” line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memory Man Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Gnomicide said: What the fuck is a convenience fee? Booking fee? And theyre about 10% so standard really. for the tier 4 3 day GA without any camping/accom or parking its an eye watering £435 Edited January 13, 2022 by Memory Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingcrawler Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Matt42 said: They booked Camila for 2020 and Lucy Spraggan recently. But you are right it would be a bold move. The question is can we divorce his X factor connection from our mind? He’s trying his best to shake it and it’s not an easy job. You can’t say he is similar at all to James Arthur or any of the other winners. He probably hates X Factor as much as you do. Glastonbury has a history of giving British acts who have built a global reputation a headline slot on the pointy one. Just like Muse, Coldplay, Adele, Arctic Monkeys, Ed Sheeran etc all managed to build careers for themselves across the world. We really should be talking about Harry in the same regard, as an act managing to have Coachella as their first big festival headlining gig (before doing your Glasto, Reading, TRNSMT, BST etc gigs) is a massive and rare achievement. It’s quite remarkable when you write it down actually. Also I’m just going to say it, sign of the times is still an incredible pop song. Do many people care about Lucy Spraggan being booked or know about Camila Cabello’s background though compared to Harry Styles? I think he’s moved beyond the X Factor thing but a lot of people, including a large number of people at the festival, will still associate him with that. I’d quite like to see him headline, certainly more than George Ezra or Lewis Capaldi as others have mentioned, but it would undoubtedly be a very controversial booking. I’m not sure if he’ll be at the top of Emily’s list but I’m starting to come round to the idea of him headlining in the next few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 Just now, nikkic said: There’s been plenty of pop acts in recent years so it’s not really a new type of act. The major criticism would probably be the same tired “not guitar music” line. Yeah booking him would be nothing new it’s just the X Factor thing I reckon. Take X Factor away and what is the difference between booking him and Adele, Ed Sheeran, Billie, Taylor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 9 hours ago, Matt42 said: Good one that! Still it’s pretty rare to have a UK artist get given their first headlining gigs in the states and not the UK. I agree though Depeche Mode are fridge list forever. Glass Animals have got a few US festival headlines next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 Surely for Harry Styles the reputation to shake is One Direction (5+ years in a boyband nobody is going to take seriously for a pyramid headline) rather than the X Factor (a month competition) in 2010 ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, gfa said: Surely for Harry Styles the reputation to shake is One Direction (5+ years in a boyband nobody is going to take seriously for a pyramid headline) rather than the X Factor (a month competition) in 2010 ?? One Direction will be seen a nostalgia act very soon (if not already). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, gfa said: Surely for Harry Styles the reputation to shake is One Direction (5+ years in a boyband nobody is going to take seriously for a pyramid headline) rather than the X Factor (a month competition) in 2010 ?? It was the 1D thing and their history I was hinting towards. Robbie Williams left Take That and became a superstar in his own right, but has never headlined the G. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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