Acts Touring around Glastonbury 2023

[BenG92]

36 minutes ago, The Nal said:

This year and this year. 

"crush" or "mosh" or whatever you want to call it, Eavis doesn't want it at the festival. Not saying he's right but it's his call. 

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMFt5XFWB/

At Rock Am Ring there were various crushes and little scraps and stuff.  It happens.

A mosh pit is completely unrelated to a crowd crush. That's a very tame looking circle pit, not a disaster which ends in people dead. 

[clasher]

9 minutes ago, BenG92 said:

A mosh pit is completely unrelated to a crowd crush. That's a very tame looking circle pit, not a disaster which ends in people dead. 

Luke 23:34

[pryce]

ive been to plenty of Indie gigs with much more fighting and much more violent mosh pits than any metal gigs ive been too

doesnt stop Indie at Glastonbury, Download is by far the most friendly festival ive been too in this country

[Florian Saucer Attack]

1 hour ago, The Nal said:

This year and this year. 

"crush" or "mosh" or whatever you want to call it, Eavis doesn't want it at the festival. Not saying he's right but it's his call. 

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMFt5XFWB/

At Rock Am Ring there were various crushes and little scraps and stuff.  It happens.

A crush is what happened at the Travis Stock gig. That's a circle pit and fairly common within some metal genres 

[gfa]

19 minutes ago, pryce said:

ive been to plenty of Indie gigs with much more fighting and much more violent mosh pits than any metal gigs ive been too

doesnt stop Indie at Glastonbury, Download is by far the most friendly festival ive been too in this country

Contentious one this (from an opinion / indie vs metal kind of standpoint)

Edited December 19, 2022 by gfa

[CaledonianGonzo]

Girl In Red organised a wall of death this year in the JPT.  Slowthai got a circle pit going at West Holts.

[The Nal]

51 minutes ago, Florian Saucer Attack said:

A crush is what happened at the Travis Stock gig. That's a circle pit and fairly common within some metal genres 

 

1 hour ago, BenG92 said:

A mosh pit is completely unrelated to a crowd crush. That's a very tame looking circle pit, not a disaster which ends in people dead. 

Indeed. But thats not really how Eavis sees it.

"We dont want a Roskilde" seems to be a Glasto HQ mantra. 

There are, routinely, calls to outlaw the practice of 'moshing' and 'bodysurfing', even to ban heavy rock bands (who tend to most inspire this behaviour) from certain festivals. Michael Eavis, the organiser of Glastonbury Festival, said last week: 'One of the most dangerous things is "moshing", where the crowd... start climbing over each other - we try very hard to avoid it, or halt it.'

https://www.theguardian.com/theobserver/2000/jul/09/features.review17

[Nicklord]

Well, it seems he doesn't know what moshing is either 

[BenG92]

3 minutes ago, The Nal said:

Indeed. But thats not really how Eavis sees it.

"We dont want a Roskilde" seems to be a Glasto HQ mantra. 

There are, routinely, calls to outlaw the practice of 'moshing' and 'bodysurfing', even to ban heavy rock bands (who tend to most inspire this behaviour) from certain festivals. Michael Eavis, the organiser of Glastonbury Festival, said last week: 'One of the most dangerous things is "moshing", where the crowd... start climbing over each other - we try very hard to avoid it, or halt it.'

https://www.theguardian.com/theobserver/2000/jul/09/features.review17

That article is 22 years old dude. They booked Turnstile on JP this year, they don't care about people moshing. 

[gfa]

16 minutes ago, The Nal said:

 

Indeed. But thats not really how Eavis sees it.

"We dont want a Roskilde" seems to be a Glasto HQ mantra. 

There are, routinely, calls to outlaw the practice of 'moshing' and 'bodysurfing', even to ban heavy rock bands (who tend to most inspire this behaviour) from certain festivals. Michael Eavis, the organiser of Glastonbury Festival, said last week: 'One of the most dangerous things is "moshing", where the crowd... start climbing over each other - we try very hard to avoid it, or halt it.'

https://www.theguardian.com/theobserver/2000/jul/09/features.review17

As Ben G said - Rosklide was so far in the past that while lessons have been learnt it 100% will not be effecting booking policy at this point.

[The Nal]

36 minutes ago, BenG92 said:

That article is 22 years old dude. They booked Turnstile on JP this year, they don't care about people moshing. 

They had Napalm Death too a few years ago but thats not the point. The odd metal gig here and there isn't going to attract "metal" fans to the festival. But loads of metal bands playing would do. And they dont want that to happen it seems.

[BenG92]

4 minutes ago, The Nal said:

They had Napalm Death too a few years ago but thats not the point. The odd metal gig here and there isn't going to attract "metal" fans to the festival. But loads of metal bands playing would do. And they dont want that to happen it seems.

I just don't think that's at all why they don't book a lot of metal. You're still gonna get crowd surfers at plenty of others genres (Sports Team and Jack White this year for example had them) with the potential for boots in faces. I don't think they book much metal because it's such a marmite genre to a lot of people, indie rock is pretty inoffensive and broad, Napalm Death ain't. 

Like, if they really did not want proper mosh pits, they just wouldn't book Turnstile and Idles, period. Doesn't matter if they book 1 metal band or 100, a pit is a pit and "potentially dangerous" but as we all know, the real danger is in crowd crushing irrespective of genre (Travis Scott, Asake). Hell, even the nod to Roskilde was about Pearl Jam, certainly not a metal act.

[maelzoid]

7 minutes ago, The Nal said:

They had Napalm Death too a few years ago but thats not the point. The odd metal gig here and there isn't going to attract "metal" fans to the festival. But loads of metal bands playing would do. And they dont want that to happen it seems.

For one, loads of metal fans already go. Like me, they like other stuff too.

I don't think that Glastonbury has a policy whereby they don't want metal fans. I just think that nobody who takes care of bookings is especially enthusiastic about hard rock / metal. It is s a shame as it's the one genre I think is really under-served, but the idea that metal fans cause trouble is a trope that is really out of date now and I'm sure the Eavii are aware of it.

[The Nal]

2 hours ago, maelzoid said:

but the idea that metal fans cause trouble is a trope that is really out of date now and I'm sure the Eavii are aware of it.

I dont think they are. Theres loads of heavy bands that are always about and never asked/don't play. I defo get the impression theres a quota and thats that.

The Earache and Scum stuff is about as far as they want to go with it. A quick flirt on a Saturday night. A splash and dash.

The don't want hoards of middle aged knuckle dragging metal heads who still live with their parents, all wearing black Kill Em All tshirts having just been dropped off at Castle Carey with their pocket money moshing about  drinking Stella from their faux ivory Viking goblets.

[Xeph1995]

20 hours ago, The Nal said:

It'd be a cockfest though

While I understand your point? That's not true for all metal acts, when I saw Ghost there was just as many if not more women. 

Edited December 19, 2022 by Xeph1995

[clasher]

10 minutes ago, The Nal said:

The don't want hoards of middle aged knuckle dragging metal heads who still live with their parents, all wearing black Kill Em All tshirts having just been dropped off at Castle Carey with their pocket money moshing about  drinking Stella from their faux ivory Viking goblets.

Dear Satan 🙄

[Xeph1995]

14 minutes ago, The Nal said:

They don't want hoards of middle aged knuckle dragging metal heads who still live with their parents, all wearing black Kill Em All tshirts having just been dropped off at Castle Carey with their pocket money moshing about  drinking Stella from their faux ivory Viking goblets.

This is one of the most outdated views I've ever read on this forum tbh.

There are loads of people who enjoy heavy music that don't fit into this dated cliche.

Edited December 19, 2022 by Xeph1995

[The Nal]

6 minutes ago, Xeph1995 said:

While I understand your point? That's not true for all metal acts, when I saw Ghost there was just as many if not more women. 

True. Ghost are a bit poppy though. Euro trash melodies and a bit of humour and the like.

You wont find many women at an Amon Amarth or a Varg gig. 

[Xeph1995]

3 minutes ago, The Nal said:

True. Ghost are a bit poppy though. Euro trash melodies and a bit of humour and the like.

You wont find many women at an Amon Amarth or a Varg gig. 

No, but they also wouldn't the type of acts that would be booked, it would be bands like Ghost that have a crossover appeal. 

No one is saying that the festival needs to book Mayhem to headline a stage. 

Edited December 19, 2022 by Xeph1995

[The Nal]

3 minutes ago, Xeph1995 said:

No but they also wouldn't the type of acts that would be booked, it would be bands like Ghost that have a crossover appeal. 

No one is saying that the festival needs to book Mayhem to headline a stage. 

Ghost are a big band though, play arenas and headline festivals and stuff. Would they be happy with the novelty 5pm slot playing to the crepe-on-a-blanket brigade? Dunno.  

[Florian Saucer Attack]

32 minutes ago, The Nal said:

The don't want hoards of middle aged knuckle dragging metal heads who still live with their parents, all wearing black Kill Em All tshirts having just been dropped off at Castle Carey with their pocket money moshing about  drinking Stella from their faux ivory Viking goblets.

You are obviously just trolling now and it's unbecoming 

[Mouseboy11]

I could see Ghost turning up next year, someone heard they were playing last year and there was the whole ‘Miserably Dressed’ thing in shangri la 

[moogster]

30 minutes ago, Mouseboy11 said:

I could see Ghost turning up next year, someone heard they were playing last year and there was the whole ‘Miserably Dressed’ thing in shangri la 

Oh i keep on forgetting to ask but here's  my opportunity: who was Miserably Dressed ?

[Mouseboy11]

44 minutes ago, moogster said:

Oh i keep on forgetting to ask but here's  my opportunity: who was Miserably Dressed ?

They were never added to the listings/stage times after they appeared on the poster. Could have been Ghost as they were rumoured, MCR were supposed to be around during the festival to but changed their dates I think 

[Suprefan]

10 hours ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said:

That soon? Nice.

Yeah, there's bound to be the usual unknowns and misfits, that's natural. Maybe we should introduce a festival exchange programme to bridge the cultural divide? Glastonbury will take Bad Bunny and Illennium and Coachella have Mik Artistik and Beans On Toast

Lol sure why not! Well here are a couple of mock lineups that have been floating around to give you an idea at least. But aside from a handful of ones at the bottom of any respective day, you prob only know stuff from the first 2 lines overall and thats it.