steviewevie Posted July 15, 2023 Report Share Posted July 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kurosagi said: And didn't we have a conversation a week or two back about how labour had foolishly committed themselves to not overhauling the tax system, or promising no major tweaks or some such. Maybe this inheritance tax thing could be deliberately designed to force labour into flip-flopping on their promises and provide the tories with an attack opportunity? definitely. So Labour will say they will not raise it again and we'll all go ho hum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurosagi Posted July 15, 2023 Report Share Posted July 15, 2023 Wish the bloody GE was happening soon so we could get all this childish politicking over and done with. 28th Jan 2025 seems like a life time away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted July 15, 2023 Report Share Posted July 15, 2023 Just now, Kurosagi said: Wish the bloody GE was happening soon so we could get all this childish politicking over and done with. 28th Jan 2025 seems like a life time away. I don’t think it will happen then, they need to make sure the weather is ok to get the elderly Tory voters out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurosagi Posted July 15, 2023 Report Share Posted July 15, 2023 Just now, pink_triangle said: I don’t think it will happen then, they need to make sure the weather is ok to get the elderly Tory voters out. 2025? At this rate we'll be having a heatwave in January by then 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyfool01 Posted July 15, 2023 Report Share Posted July 15, 2023 25 minutes ago, steviewevie said: Just Stop Oil always seem to get tickets for the top events. Impressive. Maybe it should have been for their last night at the proms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted July 15, 2023 Report Share Posted July 15, 2023 56 minutes ago, steviewevie said: Just Stop Oil always seem to get tickets for the top events. Impressive. Let’s see if they can get a ticket for a Wrexham home game, then they may win me over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 15, 2023 Report Share Posted July 15, 2023 1 hour ago, pink_triangle said: The trouble is the rich don’t pay it, they generally find ways around it. Even so it would become an optics thing, imagine how it would look to the average voter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted July 15, 2023 Report Share Posted July 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ozanne said: Even so it would become an optics thing, imagine how it would look to the average voter? Agreed and I’m not in favour of stopping it, neither do I believe it’s the most effective way of taxing the rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted July 15, 2023 Report Share Posted July 15, 2023 17 minutes ago, Ozanne said: Even so it would become an optics thing, imagine how it would look to the average voter? aspirational etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 15, 2023 Report Share Posted July 15, 2023 14 minutes ago, pink_triangle said: Agreed and I’m not in favour of stopping it, neither do I believe it’s the most effective way of taxing the rich. Also Labour could respond by just saying ‘do you remember the Liz Truss stuff, they want to do it again’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted July 15, 2023 Report Share Posted July 15, 2023 3 hours ago, Ozanne said: So there is money available. Convenient. inheritance tax is a very small amount cos most people avoid it,it's easy to avoid with a bit of forward thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted July 15, 2023 Report Share Posted July 15, 2023 2 hours ago, pink_triangle said: The trouble is the rich don’t pay it, they generally find ways around it. its not just the very rich who avoid it, nowadays its middle-class couples with a million pound house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted July 15, 2023 Report Share Posted July 15, 2023 2 hours ago, lost said: I'd be surprised if it wasn't just different factions leaking/suggesting stuff. Jeremy Hunt doesn't seem the type. hunt will secure his mps seat with abolishing inheritance tax, he'll be in trouble otherwise, farnham is middle-class million pound houses-commuter-land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 15, 2023 Report Share Posted July 15, 2023 1 of our best ever PMs will be on Sky News tomorrow! Tell me when I’m telling lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted July 15, 2023 Report Share Posted July 15, 2023 19 minutes ago, Ozanne said: 1 of our best ever PMs will be on Sky News tomorrow! Tell me when I’m telling lies. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted July 15, 2023 Report Share Posted July 15, 2023 32 minutes ago, Ozanne said: 1 of our best ever PMs will be on Sky News tomorrow! Tell me when I’m telling lies. Best PM in my lifetime (Thatcher to Sunak) but the competition is low. You have to put Truss bottom , but struggling to rank the others! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost Posted July 15, 2023 Report Share Posted July 15, 2023 He is the only person alive who isn't a tory who the British public have actually voted for. If you don't like the Tories he sorta wins by default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyfool01 Posted July 15, 2023 Report Share Posted July 15, 2023 Iraq war ..... hmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted July 15, 2023 Report Share Posted July 15, 2023 I've got a way to cancel HS2 and still get the benefits, just rebuild Birmingham 29 minutes nearer London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus Gwertigan Posted July 15, 2023 Report Share Posted July 15, 2023 25 minutes ago, Neil said: I've got a way to cancel HS2 and still get the benefits, just rebuild Birmingham 29 minutes nearer London. Or you could just bulldoze Birmingham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus Gwertigan Posted July 15, 2023 Report Share Posted July 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Ozanne said: 1 of our best ever PMs will be on Sky News tomorrow! Tell me when I’m telling lies. His pose in that photo makes him look like a dodgy Dutch pornstar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazyred Posted July 15, 2023 Report Share Posted July 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Crazyfool01 said: Iraq war ..... hmm Plus Surestart centres, minimum wage and a propery funded NHS. How do you weigh one single policy against another?. Blair/Brown were better than the tory governments before and after and that's enough for me. Specifically on the Iraq wars, we tried just using air cover to help topple Gaddafi in Libya then did nothing to help the opposition in Syria. Are the results in Syria better than the results in Iraq? They are all a mess with thousands dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyfool01 Posted July 15, 2023 Report Share Posted July 15, 2023 1 minute ago, lazyred said: Plus Surestart centres, minimum wage and a propery funded NHS. How do you weigh one single policy against another?. Blair/Brown were better than the tory governments before and after and that's enough for me. Specifically on the Iraq wars, we tried just using air cover to help topple Gaddafi in Libya then did nothing to help the opposition in Syria. Are the results in Syria better than the results in Iraq? They are all a mess with thousands dead. sure he did some good stuff here .... not sure how that balances with the war stuff though its a hard question . in terms of this country I guess hes the best but the bar isnt high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted July 15, 2023 Report Share Posted July 15, 2023 20 minutes ago, lazyred said: Plus Surestart centres, minimum wage and a propery funded NHS. How do you weigh one single policy against another?. Blair/Brown were better than the tory governments before and after and that's enough for me. Specifically on the Iraq wars, we tried just using air cover to help topple Gaddafi in Libya then did nothing to help the opposition in Syria. Are the results in Syria better than the results in Iraq? They are all a mess with thousands dead. Problem is the dodgy reasons Blair gave to the country to justify the invasion. Libya and Syria were already embroiled in civil wars...Iraq wasn't. The outcome of that invasion was a disaster for Iraq and the region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus Gwertigan Posted July 15, 2023 Report Share Posted July 15, 2023 17 minutes ago, steviewevie said: Libya and Syria were already embroiled in civil wars...Iraq wasn't. I think the Kurds would have something to say about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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