news & politics:discussion

[Kurosagi]

1 minute ago, lost said:

Bloody hell could of been written by Tony Blair word for word. Even that "3rd way" stuff between climate change sceptics and ideologues who want to go further and faster regardless of the cost felt very familiar. Very interested to see how Starmer reacts.

Yep, Sunak's spads are deffo spotting that Blair '97 is where the overton window for the GE will be fought. Truss took them miles off to the right, this is his attempt to at least try and limit their losses.

 

[steviewevie]

 

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, steviewevie said:

 

see above 🙂 

[Kurosagi]

1 minute ago, Skip997 said:

A great myth that has been deliberately been put out there.

In the long term the cost of implementing green policies and mitigating against climate change will cost a lot less than business as usual.

Unfortunately, and as we've seen proven time and time again, certainly in my long lifetime politicians will turn on a sixpence to seize a short-term advantage.

Utterly depressing, but not unexpected.

[Rufus Gwertigan]

I want my f**king seven bins. The bastard.

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, Crazyfool01 said:

see above 🙂 

oh, sorry!

(but it isn't above, it's on the previous page, so is allowed).

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, Rufus Gwertigan said:

I want my f**king seven bins. The bastard.

you've bin had ... it was always rubbish 

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, Kurosagi said:

Unfortunately, and as we've seen proven time and time again, certainly in my long lifetime politicians will turn on a sixpence to seize a short-term advantage.

Utterly depressing, but not unexpected.

Bin democracy and put King Charles in charge.

[Guest]

Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise the Tories are the party of climate change and fossil fuels. We can’t let them back in after the next election. 

[Neil]

56 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

Vote Tory ... Scrap the bins 

Scrap the green crap.

[steviewevie]

3 minutes ago, Neil said:

Scrap the green crap.

that's the election winning slogan.

[steviewevie]

did Sunak make up the meat tax and flight tax thing?

[Crazyfool01]

4 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise the Tories are the party of climate change and fossil fuels. We can’t let them back in after the next election. 

serious question who's  helping deliver leaflets or helping elsewhere? seriously think we should all help in some way ... we all sit on this thread and whinge ... time we all made some difference isn't it ? 

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, Crazyfool01 said:

serious question who's  helping deliver leaflets or helping elsewhere? seriously think we should all help in some way ... we all sit on this thread and whinge ... time we all made some difference isn't it ? 

I'm active on social media. Is that enough?

[steviewevie]

that was also a serious question btw

[steviewevie]

Labour have said they're sticking with 2030. Hardcore.

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

that was also a serious question btw

I guess if you can persuade people to actively change that certainly helps ... but is it enough ? given we all invest quite a bit of time on this thread 

[Rufus Gwertigan]

9 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

did Sunak make up the meat tax and flight tax thing?

Yes.

[Rufus Gwertigan]

The Guardians take

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/sep/20/uk-net-zero-policies-scrapped-what-do-changes-mean

[lost]

9 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

serious question who's  helping deliver leaflets or helping elsewhere? seriously think we should all help in some way ... we all sit on this thread and whinge ... time we all made some difference isn't it ? 

Buy a heat pump and electric car now to offset the people waiting till 2035.

[Rufus Gwertigan]

11 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

serious question who's  helping deliver leaflets or helping elsewhere? seriously think we should all help in some way ... we all sit on this thread and whinge ... time we all made some difference isn't it ? 

Join me in trolling climate change deniers. It can be soul destroying at times but in general good for a laugh.

[Skip997]

2 minutes ago, Rufus Gwertigan said:

Yes.

I've heard call for a flight tax, but not a meat one.

As it happens meat production is more of an issue than flying.

[steviewevie]

8 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

I guess if you can persuade people to actively change that certainly helps ... but is it enough ? given we all invest quite a bit of time on this thread 

ok I might go out and tell my neighbours not to vote tory

[steviewevie]

Just now, steviewevie said:

ok I might go out and tell my neighbours not to vote tory

and not to use their cars so much

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

and not to use their cars so much

and question some of their lifestyle choices.