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[lost]

1 minute ago, Ozanne said:

It’s funny how your views are now laid out in Tory policy…

Your probably not old enough to remember but Blair was labour not Tory and I never said they were my views I said he was right in that pushing the costs on to normal people would probably lose alot of support.

[steviewevie]

Just now, Ozanne said:

He was talking rubbish (hehe) it was never policy or even mentioned as one. 

BUT!

it does bring up an important point, about rubbish and consumerism. We all need to stop buying so much sh*t and throwing so much sh*t away.

We also need to travel less.

We also need to eat less meat and dairy.

And vote Labour.

[Skip997]

5 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

Not used our landfill normal bin since October 2018..

I think I have beaten that.

That's crazy - like how?

Even when I was living off-grid and growing loads of veg I never got near that.

[Nobody Interesting]

1 minute ago, Crazyfool01 said:

How? What about non recyclable plastic ? Like food covering ? Ice lolly’s etc ? Maybe our council is a bit behind . Nice 1 though 

We consider carefully what we buy and if it cannot be recycled we do not buy it unless we know of a way of doing so. Lots of the non recyclable plastics are reused - some in camera 'bean bags' for example.

If ever we get packaging from a delivery order we cannot recycle (we choose who we use carefully) we send it back to them

It is hard to start with as you have to think lots and look for alternatives but once you are up and running it is easy and done without really thinking. 

 

[Skip997]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

BUT!

it does bring up an important point, about rubbish and consumerism. We all need to stop buying so much sh*t and throwing so much sh*t away.

We also need to travel less.

We also need to eat less meat and dairy.

And vote Labour.

A lot of that sh*t is completely unnecessary and does nothing for anyone. Production should be stopped.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, lost said:

Your probably not old enough to remember but Blair was labour not Tory and I never said they were my views I said he was right in that pushing the costs on to normal people would probably lose alot of support.

You regularly talk about your opposition to many net zero policies and now they’re becoming Tory policy. Thats just convenient is all I’m saying. 

[Nobody Interesting]

4 minutes ago, Skip997 said:

That's crazy - like how?

Even when I was living off-grid and growing loads of veg I never got near that.

See my post in reply to crazyfool.

It was hard at first but now is just automatic. We do not make zero landfill rubbish - though not far off it - but we do not use our black bin for it and get it reused elsewhere as much as possible - there are loads of schemes here and in nearby towns and often someone will be heading to one and collects other peoples stuff to take too such as blister packs.

We have contacts we know well in Kenya and when we spent lots of time there with the local tribes we learned from them how to reuse etc on so many things. Things like old shirts can make excellent insulation for example.

Edited September 20, 2023 by Nobody Interesting

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

BUT!

it does bring up an important point, about rubbish and consumerism. We all need to stop buying so much sh*t and throwing so much sh*t away.

We also need to travel less.

We also need to eat less meat and dairy.

And vote Labour.

But if we stop buying stuff then the economy struggles. What do we do!?

[lost]

Just now, Ozanne said:

You regularly talk about your opposition to many net zero policies and now they’re becoming Tory policy. Thats just convenient is all I’m saying. 

In relation to the cost of the poorest. Me personally I have an electric car so obviously I'm not in opposition.

[steviewevie]

Just now, Ozanne said:

But if we stop buying stuff then the economy struggles. What do we do!?

errrr....does not compute........bzzz...

[Nobody Interesting]

4 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

But if we stop buying stuff then the economy struggles. What do we do!?

and there is the big fat elephant in the room........................

Current systems have to have growth to be able to borrow money on............................ but to get growth on the current system we have to spend and spend on anything and everything including crap nobody needs.

Under the system we have we are doomed to failure.

I may have mentioned this lots before.

Edited September 20, 2023 by Nobody Interesting

[steviewevie]

Are we going to get into how green we are?

are we going to be honest?

[Guest]

Just now, lost said:

In relation to the cost of the poorest. Me personally I have an electric car so obviously I'm not in opposition.

Your posts give off the perception that you don’t support net zero. 

[Guest]

Just now, Nobody Interesting said:

and there is the big fat elephant in the room........................

Current systems have to have growth to be able to borrow money on............................ but to get growth on the current system we have to spend and spend on anything and everything including crap nobody needs.

Under the system we have we are doomed to failure.

I amy have mentioned this lots before.

You make a very good point Amy 😉

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

Are we going to get into how green we are?

are we going to be honest?

Go for it … honestly makes us think deeper 

[Nobody Interesting]

1 minute ago, Ozanne said:

You make a very good point Amy 😉

LOL my fat fingers type too fast

[steviewevie]

I am very green, and very left wing.

That is all you need to know.

#voteLabour

[steviewevie]

[steviewevie]

3 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

Go for it … honestly makes us think deeper 

I am much greener than you.

That is all you need to know.

[Skip997]

8 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

But if we stop buying stuff then the economy struggles. What do we do!?

f**k the economy, you can't eat money or credit cards.

 

[Nobody Interesting]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Are we going to get into how green we are?

are we going to be honest?

As far as weekly rubbish goes we are as green as we can be.................. probably.

We are vegetarian and source locally as much as we can but we do buy from supermarkets lots too.

We don't do 'fashion' and wear clothes til they are really knackered and buy 2nd hand too.

We have a car (09 reg from new) but will not get another one, likely not and EV either. We will use taxis, buses, trains etc...... or walk which we do lots. Last year the car did 2500 miles ish mostly to festivals and Heathrow.

and there is the failing - Heathrow. My work takes me to Kenya so I fly.................. 2 or 3 times a year recently but reducing to 1 in 2025 and then every other year from 2027 onwards. We have  a tree grove in Scotland where we get trees planted to offset some and we invest in nature and wildlife conservation in Kenya whoihc is one reason we go as well as me being  a nature and wildlife photographer.

We are not perfect by a long long way but we try as much as w can - and on days like this I wonder why I f**king bother.

 

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, Skip997 said:

f**k the economy, you can't eat money or credit cards.

 

no but you can eat food that money buys you, and snort powder with credit cards afterwards,

[Nobody Interesting]

5 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

I am very green, and very left wing.

That is all you need to know.

#voteLabour

 

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

I am much greener than you.

That is all you need to know.

and sometimes on here you come across as a right twat too................... but a green one who is better than us.

[steviewevie]

Just now, Nobody Interesting said:

 

and sometimes on here you come across as a right twat too................... but a green one who is better than us.

bit rude, but I'll ignore that for now.

[lost]

6 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

I am very green, and very left wing.

That is all you need to know.

#voteLabour

We need the Spanish Inquisition to root out non-believers.