news & politics:discussion

[steviewevie]

38 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

You need to check your sources. The evidence is emerging that Hamas are using car bombs on the evacuation routes and blaming the attack on Israel. 
 

Hamas don’t care about the Palestinian people. They’re just pawns in their crusade against non Muslims. 
 

 

so much accusations and bullshit flying round on social media hard to know what's true...so people just ending up believing what they want to believe.

[steviewevie]

7 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

it says clearly at the bottom its up for speculation 

thing is, maybe we'll never know. 

The BBC verify people have looked into it, no conclusion yet. Then again it's BBC so can't be trusted etc.

 

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

thing is, maybe we'll never know. 

The BBC verify people have looked into it, no conclusion yet. Then again it's BBC so can't be trusted etc.

 

yeah indeed just need to be carefull on assumption here in all directions and im guilty of that 

[steviewevie]

it's like in Ukraine when that dam burst...pro Ukraine blamed Russia, pro Russia blamed Ukraine...and nothing was ever concluded. Just believe what fits your narrative. They're the bad guys, we're the good guys, end of.

[Neil]

12 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

yeah indeed just need to be carefull on assumption here in all directions and im guilty of that 

people have taken a position and then pick their 'evidence' to support it.

[Crazyfool01]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

this guy is going through a lot of it and debunking all the bullshit.

 

Can he be trusted ? 😊

[Neil]

i had an offer for efestivals from an Israeli company would have made life interesting around now if i'd gone with it, didn't go with it cos i had a better offer and cos i didn't like the terms of that Israeli offer - they could have reversed the sale for up-to 2 years after, no good for me who wanted out.

[steviewevie]

In that post above is anyone getting lIterally all of that BBC verify blokes tweets embedded? It didn't on Firefox on windows but does on Chrome on my phone. Sorry about that... can't edit it now!

Edited October 15, 2023 by steviewevie

[cellar]

19 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

In that post above is anyone getting lIterally all of that BBC verify blokes tweets embedded? It didn't on Firefox on windows but does on Chrome on my phone. Sorry about that... can't edit it now!

They all show up for me. Also very interesting/scary.

[Crazyfool01]

28 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

In that post above is anyone getting lIterally all of that BBC verify blokes tweets embedded? It didn't on Firefox on windows but does on Chrome on my phone. Sorry about that... can't edit it now!

Was a long scroll on my phone … how do we embed tweets now ? I’ve lost the plot on how to 

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, Crazyfool01 said:

Was a long scroll on my phone … how do we embed tweets now ? I’ve lost the plot on how to 

I just copied and pasted link to the bloke's twitter, didn't know it would go and embed the whole lot. Can you edit/detete?

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

I just copied and pasted link to the bloke's twitter, didn't know it would go and embed the whole lot. Can you edit/detete?

Yep shall I delete the lot ? 

[steviewevie]

3 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

Yep shall I delete the lot ? 

if you can? 

for anyone interested he's @Shayan86

[steviewevie]

so...Israel haven't invaded yet...stuff going on behind the scenes maybe...?

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

so...Israel haven't invaded yet...stuff going on behind the scenes maybe...?

Or they aren’t ready to go …. Let’s hope you are right 

[steviewevie]

7 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

Or they aren’t ready to go …. Let’s hope you are right 

Apparently they are ready, but are waiting for the say so from the top. Surely the pressure for restraint will be building, not just for the sake of Gazans, but what it means for Israel and the region. If Hamas could release the hostages that would make peace a lot easier to reach.

[steviewevie]

a bit of light relief...

 

[steviewevie]

if they want to take out Hamas they're here...

 

[steviewevie]

we'll get bored of it eventually, like we got bored of Russia and Ukraine.

[steviewevie]

I wonder if there were no men, just women, it would be better, more peaceful?

[pink_triangle]

Owen Jones accusing Starmer of racism, I thought he wanted a labour government? I have noticed since Corbyn his output  has really deteriorated and he just looks like someone after likes and retweets. In comparison I think there is more interesting output from the likes of Bastani and Sarkar at Novara, even if you don’t always agree with them they can make a decent intellectual argument.

[Neil]

7 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

Owen Jones accusing Starmer of racism, I thought he wanted a labour government? I have noticed since Corbyn his output  has really deteriorated and he just looks like someone after likes and retweets. In comparison I think there is more interesting output from the likes of Bastani and Sarkar at Novara, even if you don’t always agree with them they can make a decent intellectual argument.

He never managed to called Corbyn racist even when he was racist.

[Guest]

15 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

Owen Jones accusing Starmer of racism, I thought he wanted a labour government? I have noticed since Corbyn his output  has really deteriorated and he just looks like someone after likes and retweets. In comparison I think there is more interesting output from the likes of Bastani and Sarkar at Novara, even if you don’t always agree with them they can make a decent intellectual argument.

Owen Jones is very strange, I don’t know why he doesn’t leave the party. 

[steviewevie]

I respect Owen Jones but at same time find him an annoying c**t.

[steviewevie]

and I watched that Owen Jones Margaret Hodge sky thing and he is right in what he says...but at same time so is Hodge from an Israeli point of view. Some times he flies off the handle and says sh*t...calling Starmer racist is stupid (but whisper it maybe calling Corbyn an antisemite is too).