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[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

Bridgen has had whip removed for the above.

[hodgey123]

3 hours ago, Barry Fish said:

Its all really simple.   Meghan outshined Kate and that can never be allowed to happen.  So the attack hounds where released.  That's why we are here today. 

It's a great example of how the establishment will protect itself even against their own.  It's a reflection on the whole system - the tory party being the political wing of it and so on...

Yeah this is what I believe too. It is no surprise that he is getting it from all angles following the book as it is threatening/exposing the status quo of the tight, self-serving relationship between the media (which is dominated by right-wing papers/tabloids) and the monarchy, so obviously the media are going to push back to protect this!

[Guest]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

Bridgen has had whip removed for the above.

Good. The comments he made shouldn’t be allowed especially for a sitting MP, it’s dangerous, offensive, miss-information. 

[Neil]

4 hours ago, Barry Fish said:

Its all really simple.   Meghan outshined Kate and that can never be allowed to happen.  So the attack hounds where released.  That's why we are here today. 

It's a great example of how the establishment will protect itself even against their own.  It's a reflection on the whole system - the tory party being the political wing of it and so on...

no, you've got that wrong, the family has met troublesome American  divorcees before.

[Neil]

20 hours ago, steviewevie said:

apparently progress being made in NI protocol negotiations...maybe something can be done...Sunak seems less hardline on this stuff than Johnson/Truss...and maybe EU side are moving on some stuff too...but..ERG, DUP etc.

the eu can't move much as they have to enforce their customs border.

[Guest]

This is useful for anyone wondering about energy bills. 

[charlierc]

23 hours ago, Ozanne said:

I remember him taking a private flight after COP but not so sure about the friend part. 

Johnson takes private jet from Cop26 to London to attend dinner | Boris Johnson | The Guardian

Says pictures at the time photographed him at an exclusive members club with Charles Moore, who is a former Telegraph editor that Boris handed a peerage, and who it turned out was defending Owen Paterson over the lobbying scandal that duly blew up in his face.

[hodgey123]

4 hours ago, Ozanne said:

This is useful for anyone wondering about energy bills. 

It's actually outrageous. I am lucky that I can comfortably afford it, but looking back at my December 2021 vs. December 2022, I paid almost £210 more this December for roughly the same usage. That's one month and could absolutely cripple those less fortunate than me.

[steviewevie]

 

[Guest]

11 hours ago, steviewevie said:

 

He’s so wooden. Ian Dunt says Sunak talks to people like they are children and I think it’s pretty accurate. 

[clarkete]

1 hour ago, Barry Fish said:

What a shit hole of a country.  The NHS is currently a total smoke screen of a service.  Not point it being free if its not there when you need it.

No point in changing to a paid service if tens of millions can't afford it. 

[steviewevie]

19 minutes ago, clarkete said:

No point in changing to a paid service if tens of millions can't afford it. 

Too damaged to fix in short term, but needs sorting out now for the future if going to survive. The govt has been increasing funding, but it obviously isn't enough. If going to keep as is, needs more funds, and to be better managed.  For a start needs to pay it's workforce better so they don't leave or go on strike. In short term if means NHS contracting out to private services, so be it.

[steviewevie]

apparently overall number on hospital waiting lists in England has fallen a bit...so...err...that's good..

Edited January 12, 2023 by steviewevie

[Neil]

36 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

apparently overall number on hospital waiting lists in England has fallen a bit...so...err...that's good..

hopefully i might get the follow-up appointment soon that  i've been waiting 2.5 years for.

[clarkete]

1 hour ago, Barry Fish said:

 

Well tens of millions aren't getting service at the moment...  At least the others might stand a chance....  (its around 9% who don't get access in the USA so in the UK that would be around around 6 million rather than tens of millions presuming a similar outcome).

I wonder if this women would prefer a dead husband or an invoice / credit card bill ...  Sounds like he worked so under the USA system he would have been fine.

No point it being free if when you phone all you get is bullshit like you just phoned for a taxi on a Saturday night... Its just around the corner....

You perpetually spout this guff about the US system and the facts don't support you however many times you say it - it's still hot air. 

 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, steviewevie said:

Too damaged to fix in short term, but needs sorting out now for the future if going to survive. The govt has been increasing funding, but it obviously isn't enough. If going to keep as is, needs more funds, and to be better managed.  For a start needs to pay it's workforce better so they don't leave or go on strike. In short term if means NHS contracting out to private services, so be it.

A general election would also be helpful. 

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, clarkete said:

You perpetually spout this guff about the US system and the facts don't support you however many times you say it - it's still hot air. 

 

No one wants the same system as they have in the US.

[steviewevie]

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[clarkete]

4 hours ago, Barry Fish said:

I read reports over Christmas that put countries in different positions for that stuff with the UK being last for most stuff.  Sky News just yesterday ran a similar story.  So yeah - depends on your agenda what you choose to post.

Your basically proud of a bucket of shit.

Feel free to quote any decent source, as I've done. 

Otherwise, whilst I agree with you on a couple of issues, on this one you are full of shite. 

[steviewevie]

Maybe we should look to Cuba for how to run a health service.

[Neil]

8 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

You seem to have a cob on around the USA health service.  No one is saying its the holy grail of Health Services but in a lot of area its a dam sight better than the UK.  Maybe try understanding the points being made instead of launching in with your dim witted contributions. 

Ever used it ?   I have...  its night and day better from my experience.  

It might be better if someone is picking up the insurance costs, which is often part of someone's job pay package. 

[Guest]

2 pretty interesting by-election results in Tory territory. 

[steviewevie]

Uk economy grew in November...does that mean Rishi has already passed one of his tests?

[Guest]

46 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Uk economy grew in November...does that mean Rishi has already passed one of his tests?

No, the UK economy shrunk by 0.3% for the 3 months to November.