steviewevie Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 Just now, Neil said: It guarantees a decent wage for graduates that's out of reach to many otherwise. My kid has a first in maths which makes him very employable., hence the great starting wage. ok. err..well done to your kid who isn't a teacher on a great starting wage proving that teachers earn a good starting wage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 minute ago, steviewevie said: ok. err..well done to your kid who isn't a teacher on a great starting wage proving that teachers earn a good starting wage. It's £28k minimum for a teacher isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 Helen Whatley is pretty good at the I am tory scum but I really do care face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 Just now, Neil said: It's £28k minimum for a teacher isn't it? no idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, Barry Fish said: That is the current starting salary. there's not too many graduate jobs with better nowadays i think, but a guaranteed minimum of 28k is worth having as a benchmark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodgey123 Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, Barry Fish said: I think you are probably right. I view it from the position of having a wife who was earning incredible sums in industry and moved to teaching and now we are poor 😛 and I am questioning why lol What does she teach out of interest? Curious as to what type of industry she was in to decide teaching was better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJS Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 22 hours ago, Barry Fish said: And that is really the crux here... The Scottish bill removes those reasonable bechmarks. No it doesn't. Trans women already use women's only spaces before they have a GRC. If I were a preditory male wanting to enter a woman's toilet or changing room with evil intent, why would I go to the bother of getting a GRC? I would simply have a shave, slip on a frock and Bob's your auntie. There certainly are threats to women from men. I'm pretty sure most of these men strongly identify as"real" men and would rearrange your teeth for suggesting otherwise. And if there is so much danger from this measure, why are we not awash with examples from the many parts of the world which already have similar legislation? And why does the UK government accept GRCs from Ireland but won't accept them from Scotland? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJS Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 33 minutes ago, Barry Fish said: Yes it does... simple as that... You need to go back to the Scottish Indy thread and go have a pointless back and forth with Neil. You just bore me 🙂 I admit defeat. Your forensic logic has won. You fascinate me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 56 minutes ago, LJS said: why would I go to the bother of getting a GRC? irrelevant question - one of the points is that it's comparatively no-bother to get a GRC, because a person is essentially' awarding themselves that certificate, because there's no 3rd party checking such as a doctor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJS Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, Neil said: irrelevant question - one of the points is that it's comparatively no-bother to get a GRC, because a person is essentially' awarding themselves that certificate, because there's no 3rd party checking such as a doctor. Someday, Neil, you will answer one of my points in full, without picking out a few words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 3 hours ago, steviewevie said: Did you watch it? I thought it was a good assessment of the state of things. It shows the anger within the industry towards the government and also how complicated it is to fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 22 minutes ago, LJS said: Someday, Neil, you will answer one of my points in full, without picking out a few words. I don't claim to have the justification to block the grc. I have seen legal opinion that recons the uk has a solid case in law, and that the sg is going to waste a lot of money on a court case it'll lose. Lots of grievance to be mined here so that's what the snp will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 8 hours ago, Ozanne said: Did you watch it? I thought it was a good assessment of the state of things. It shows the anger within the industry towards the government and also how complicated it is to fix. watched most of it...but have to admit I have a bit of a The Expanse addiction at moment so moved on to watching that...some worrying solarpolitical shit going on a few hundred years into the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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steviewevie Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 Lock him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 Looks like our pm is going to pick up another police fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 Oh dear Sunak, he’s made yet another blunder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 3 hours ago, Ozanne said: Oh dear Sunak, he’s made yet another blunder. another step back to spaffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan1984 Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 3 hours ago, Neil said: another step back to spaffer. I did notice he’s reappeared and started trapping off about various things in recent weeks… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said: I did notice he’s reappeared and started trapping off about various things in recent weeks… they'll dump sunak for spaffer at some point between now and the next election, I'm certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 Sunak has been fined for not wearing a seatbelt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 4 hours ago, Neil said: they'll dump sunak for spaffer at some point between now and the next election, I'm certain. BET NOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJS Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 56 minutes ago, Ozanne said: Sunak has been fined for not wearing a seatbelt! Its the least of his offences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 20, 2023 Report Share Posted January 20, 2023 Ukraine is at the point where it will have been better for nato to get involved early on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted January 21, 2023 Report Share Posted January 21, 2023 8 hours ago, Neil said: Ukraine is at the point where it will have been better for nato to get involved early on. It may as well be part of nato. I guess us/europe/etc has decided that Ukraine can win, and must win, and looks like all leading up to a big hoo-ha in the spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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