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[steviewevie]

5-Missions-for-a-Better-Britain.pdf (labour.org.uk)

[Guest]

Starmer have a good speech earlier, he’s grown in confidence so much and the missions he’s announced will genuinely help the country. 

[Skip997]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

1. Secure the highest sustained growth in the G7

We've got to stop with this growth agenda, it's environmentally unsustainable.

[steviewevie]

48 minutes ago, Skip997 said:

We've got to stop with this growth agenda, it's environmentally unsustainable.

well we're doing pretty well on that front..

[Skip997]

3 hours ago, Rufus Gwertigan said:

I'd be interested to know how she poses a security threat.

She doesn't.

This is a political move to placate the racists and islamaphobes.

[lost]

Starmers changed his mind. He thinks she should now be banned and national security should come first.

[steviewevie]

5 minutes ago, lost said:

Starmers changed his mind. He thinks she should now be banned and national security should come first.

oh, well that obviously changes everything. She must pose a threat and must be banned at all costs. Nice one Keir.

[Crazyfool01]

30 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

well we're doing pretty well on that front..

tomatoes a bit of an issue 

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

tomatoes a bit of an issue 

yeah, but we have turnips.

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

yeah, but we have turnips.

getting to the root cause 

Edited February 23, 2023 by Crazyfool01

[Guest]

 

[Neil]

2 hours ago, Barry Fish said:

And no detail on how we finds those unicorns...  

by just not being the death-wish tories.

[Skip997]

32 minutes ago, lost said:

Starmers changed his mind. He thinks she should now be banned and national security should come first.

He's such a twat, heading further to the right by the day.

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Neil said:

by just not being the death-wish tories.

All Labours plans will be fully costed and they’ve said that they’ll announce their plans for tax in due course. 

[steviewevie]

5 minutes ago, Skip997 said:

He's such a twat, heading further to the right by the day.

reported

[cellar]

31 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

getting to the root cause 

I think this was probably a bit tongue-in-cheek, but I'm sure I read something about Ireland having shortages too. Brexit is probably a factor, but I doubt its the primary cause.

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, cellar said:

I think this was probably a bit tongue-in-cheek, but I'm sure I read something about Ireland having shortages too. Brexit is probably a factor, but I doubt its the primary cause.

Yeah indeed it is … but I’ve yet to see a single photo from any other country that’s struggling and I’ve looked quite hard being that it relates to my job . Of course they will trade with the nearest eu countries and those that don’t require huge amounts of paperwork though 

[Ryan1984]

1 hour ago, Skip997 said:

She doesn't.

This is a political move to placate the racists and islamaphobes.

A lot of what Starmer does is this. He wants to win the election and to do so, you need to appear willing to listen - and attract - these kind of people.

[steviewevie]

6 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said:

A lot of what Starmer does is this. He wants to win the election and to do so, you need to appear willing to listen - and attract - these kind of people.

Bring back hanging. No black in the union jack.

Etc

[cellar]

9 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

Yeah indeed it is … but I’ve yet to see a single photo from any other country that’s struggling and I’ve looked quite hard being that it relates to my job . Of course they will trade with the nearest eu countries and those that don’t require huge amounts of paperwork though 

Brexit didn't cause this though. It doesn't help it for sure, but I think there are more important reasons at play (climate change, energy costs)

[steviewevie]

5 minutes ago, cellar said:

Brexit didn't cause this though. It doesn't help it for sure, but I think there are more important reasons at play (climate change, energy costs)

So no tomatoes everywhere?

[Crazyfool01]

5 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

Its nothing to do with Brexit.  Its down to how the UK buys stuff.  The BBC did an article on it.  Brexit isn't to blame for everything lol

And how is that different for us ? 

[Guest]

11 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

So no tomatoes everywhere?

You have to ignore the pictures of Tomatoes in other countries as it upsets the Brexiters.

[cellar]

11 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

So no tomatoes everywhere?

Other places do have tomatoes I think.

 

https://www.euronews.com/green/2023/02/23/fact-check-is-brexit-to-blame-for-britains-fruit-and-vegetable-shortages

I just found this article while trying to read up on it.

[cellar]

1 minute ago, Ozanne said:

You have to ignore the pictures of Tomatoes in other countries as it upsets the Brexiters.

It's just such a mad leap of logic to connect these two things so decisively - unless you're letting bias come into play.

I'm also not a Brexiter (I think I clarified that in this thread at some point... Maybe not).