news & politics:discussion

[steviewevie]

Shocked to hear Lee Anderson is to have his own show on GB News.

[steviewevie]

Braverman says the whole world would come here if we let them.

[Guest]

The government passed the Nationality and Borders Act passed last year so why do they need this new one?

[steviewevie]

STOP THE BOATS!

[steviewevie]

STOP THE FUCKING BOATS!

[steviewevie]

no entry nige

 

[Neil]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

no entry nige

 

Those wacky european ideas like human rights, as recognised by churchill. 

[Skip997]

When are they going to realise it's not going to stop?

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, Skip997 said:

When are they going to realise it's not going to stop?

No...but they can and will make it an election issue...stop the boats, stop immigration...and even if they get a few planes of those horrid migrants off the ground to Rwanda or Timbuctoo and there is a deal with France that reduces the boat crossings that could play well for them in the next election.

[steviewevie]

meanwhile

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

I guess it will all be about us leaving the ECHR now...is Sunak really going to go there? I hope not.

[Neil]

3 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

I guess it will all be about us leaving the ECHR now...is Sunak really going to go there? I hope not.

reckon he will, its gourmet dinner for tory mps and tory voters.

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, Neil said:

reckon he will, its gourmet dinner for tory mps and tory voters.

it's shameful...and kind of fascist.

[Guest]

Does it really work with voters though? It might work with some in the red wall but it’ll turn off the more liberal voters they have down south. 

[Justiceforcedave]

Graham Brady standing down.

[steviewevie]

3 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Does it really work with voters though? It might work with some in the red wall but it’ll turn off the more liberal voters they have down south. 

there are some up north too.

[Guest]

19 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

there are some up north too.

Yes of course, sorry!

[steviewevie]

3 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Yes of course, sorry!

😃

I know what you mean though...but sometimes I get a bit sick of the red wall blue wall generalisations...as if everyone up north is working class racist and everyone down south is middle class liberal.

Anyway, this is obviously the tory tactic now, go hard on this immigration/boats thing, try and do another brexit style culture war thing, but as you say not sure it resonates so much now. Everyone is different etc...but I wouldn't be surprised if majority of people do want this situation sorted out, but at same time for these people to be treated humanely and with some respect. I hope so anyway.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

😃

I know what you mean though...but sometimes I get a bit sick of the red wall blue wall generalisations...as if everyone up north is working class racist and everyone down south is middle class liberal.

Anyway, this is obviously the tory tactic now, go hard on this immigration/boats thing, try and do another brexit style culture war thing, but as you say not sure it resonates so much now. Everyone is different etc...but I wouldn't be surprised if majority of people do want this situation sorted out, but at same time for these people to be treated humanely and with some respect. I hope so anyway.

I understand the generalisations would be annoying, I should’ve thought before I said that. 
 

I think illegal immigration is a big issue for quite a few voters but this government go about it in ways that haven’t worked and in such crass ways it could turn people off. They seem to have lost the trust of the voters on this according to polls and this new bill probably won’t work either so it’s lose lose. 

[steviewevie]

RMT have suspended strikes. Quitters.

[Neil]

2 hours ago, steviewevie said:

it's shameful...and kind of fascist.

no so much fascist as tribal, the tribe looking after what it considers it's own.

[Neil]

Does this make you feel old? 

Blue Monday is 40 years old. 

[Ryan1984]

4 hours ago, steviewevie said:

 

That’s a lovely positive ‘Welcome to Britain’ message…

[steviewevie]

9 hours ago, Neil said:

no so much fascist as tribal, the tribe looking after what it considers it's own.

looking threatening to the other to please the natives seems pretty fascist to me...but yeah ok let's call it tribal.