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1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

Happy 20th anniversary of the Iraq war. What a tragic catastrophe it was, and totally unnecessary. Whatever you think of Blair's domestic policies this will tarnish him forever. He lied and misled parliament and the country with far worse outcomes than Bojo's lies.

just heard it blamed for Brexit, and the Ukraine invasion.

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44 minutes ago, Neil said:

just heard it blamed for Brexit, and the Ukraine invasion.

I mean...you can link everything...2008 crash, 9/11, WW2...etc

What it did do is fuck US reputation around the world, fucked Blair and Labour's reputation at home, and worst of all devastated so many Iraqi lives.

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2 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

DUP will be voting against the Windsor Framework, this will mean some Tories will also vote against. Interesting!

who knew the DUP would say 'no!' lol - they've never said 'no' before.

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2 minutes ago, Neil said:

who knew the DUP would say 'no!' lol - they've never said 'no' before.

I wonder if they’ve been given more ‘promises’ by Boris Johnson 😂

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7 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

DUP will be voting against the Windsor Framework, this will mean some Tories will also vote against. Interesting!

that does complicate things...if power sharing not restored at Stormont then no Stormont brake which was key part of this new deal. They're idiots.

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9 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

yeah, every step of the way they've said no without giving a workable alternative. 

the dup don't want a working alternative, as they'd have to accept SF as the boss.

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4 minutes ago, Neil said:

the dup don't want a working alternative, as they'd have to accept SF as the boss.

but even prior to that they just kept blocking everything...don't know why they actually wanted brexit. I guess what they do want is a big fucking wall separating NI with Ireland.

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7 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

but even prior to that they just kept blocking everything...don't know why they actually wanted brexit. I guess what they do want is a big fucking wall separating NI with Ireland.

They want to provoke border conflict as it justifies their existence. 

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that could be an outlier...but the govt have had a few good weeks so you would expect them to get a jump in the polls...windsor framework thing, a budget that wasn't a total disaster and stole some of labour's child support thunder, and stop the fucking boats and fuck echr and linekar and all the wokeheads...and at same time no one seems to know what labour are about except starmer seems ok, bit dull. A 10 point lead seems more realistic to me...and if I was actually to put a bet on next election at moment I'd go for small majority for labour, and not that confident of that really.  Only time I can remember labour actually winning is with Bliar in charge.

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17 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

that could be an outlier...but the govt have had a few good weeks so you would expect them to get a jump in the polls...windsor framework thing, a budget that wasn't a total disaster and stole some of labour's child support thunder, and stop the fucking boats and fuck echr and linekar and all the wokeheads...and at same time no one seems to know what labour are about except starmer seems ok, bit dull. A 10 point lead seems more realistic to me...and if I was actually to put a bet on next election at moment I'd go for small majority for labour, and not that confident of that really.  Only time I can remember labour actually winning is with Bliar in charge.

Yeah I’d say that poll is an outlier, given this poll in the same period. 

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