news & politics:discussion

[steviewevie]

Yeah, a labour/libdem/green coalition could be pretty cool...and then the Tories go all national conservative batshit.

[Neil]

Just now, steviewevie said:

Yeah, a labour/libdem/green coalition could be pretty cool.

it'll just piss everyone off see the tory/libdem coalition 2010 for details.

[Neil]

6 minutes ago, mattiloy said:

It would look ridiculous if they got say 6/7% nationally

because the only suggestion of them getting that many votes comes from fantasists

[Neil]

7 minutes ago, mattiloy said:

. It would look ridiculous if they got say 6/7% nationally and had 0.15% of the MPs.

the much better supported libdems never managed anything like that

[steviewevie]

5 minutes ago, Neil said:

it'll just piss everyone off see the tory/libdem coalition 2010 for details.

Tories did ok out of it.

[Neil]

4 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Tories did ok out of it.

lib xdems fucked themselves, the next junior partner won't be the same mug.

[steviewevie]

3 minutes ago, Neil said:

lib xdems fucked themselves, the next junior partner won't be the same mug.

I think they would with labour, but we'll see.

[mattiloy]

11 minutes ago, Neil said:

the much better supported libdems never managed anything like that

The lib dems got 11.6% in 2019. The greens vote share went from around 1% to nearly 4% between 2010 and 2015.

Given the context of climate change and Labour’s turmoil, I would be amazed if the greens dont get at least 5% in 2024. Membership in the party has nearly quadrupled to >50,000 in the last decade or so. They will have more boots on the ground and more money than ever.

[Neil]

1 minute ago, mattiloy said:

The lib dems got 11.6% in 2019. The greens vote share went from around 1% to nearly 4% between 2010 and 2015.

Given the context of climate change and Labour’s turmoil, I would be amazed if the greens dont get at least 5% in 2024. Membership in the party has nearly quadrupled to >50,000 in the last decade or so. They will have more boots on the ground and more money than ever.

there is no labour turmoil, you'll have to try harder! to win it for the tories.

[squirrelarmy]

2 minutes ago, Neil said:

there is no labour turmoil, you'll have to try harder! to win it for the tories.

He won’t accept that Labour are now electable again. Better off ignoring him. 

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

Greens are attracting disillusioned left wing labour voters,but also voters of all parties because of climate change and the environment. I can see then getting 5%+ too.

 

[mattiloy]

6 minutes ago, Neil said:

there is no labour turmoil, you'll have to try harder! to win it for the tories.

How is life under that rock you live beneath?

Do you find you get a lot of grit in your ears and nose with your head so firmly buried in the sand?

[Neil]

6 minutes ago, mattiloy said:

How is life under that rock you live beneath?

Do you find you get a lot of grit in your ears and nose with your head so firmly buried in the sand?

starmer kicking out no brain corbyn is the right move to win votes, not the wrong move.

[Neil]

7 minutes ago, mattiloy said:

How is life under that rock you live beneath?

Do you find you get a lot of grit in your ears and nose with your head so firmly buried in the sand?

 corbyn being a dedicated anti-semite cant penetrate under your rock.

[Neil]

15 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

He won’t accept that Labour are now electable again. Better off ignoring him. 

he wont accept he's a tory agent.

[Punksnotdead]

Sunak: "We're making good progress in key battlegrounds".

The man is fucking deluded!

[Neil]

3 minutes ago, Punksnotdead said:

Sunak: "We're making good progress in key battlegrounds".

The man is fucking deluded!

hes trying to talk it up for the tories who'd like a different leader.

[Neil]

21 minutes ago, Punksnotdead said:

Sunak: "We're making good progress in key battlegrounds".

The man is fucking deluded!

hes a tory, of course he's deluded.

[steviewevie]

35 minutes ago, Neil said:

starmer kicking out no brain corbyn is the right move to win votes, not the wrong move.

Maybe net benefit, but does mean they are losing some votes to Greens.

Labour have a major task to win a majority after 2019, so needing to form a coalition is quite possible.

[steviewevie]

23 minutes ago, Punksnotdead said:

Sunak: "We're making good progress in key battlegrounds".

The man is fucking deluded!

What's he going to say, we're well and truly fucked? 

The hope for Tories is opposition vote is not all going to labour, and that sunak seems reasonably popular, but I think damage is done.

[Neil]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

so needing to form a coalition is quite possible.

but same as with 2010 and 2016, labour has to realise its a coalition, and they have no right to dominate.

[Neil]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

What's he going to say, we're well and truly fucked? 

The hope for Tories is opposition vote is not all going to labour, and that sunak seems reasonably popular, but I think damage is done.

yeah, its the party which is damaged, changing leader can't fix it.

[fraybentos1]

Hung parly and Labour biggest party would be a good thing imo. Electoral reform desperately needed and maybe one day labour will be dragged kicking and screaming to do it. Doubt it tho. Libs must have learnt lessons from the coalition too, they had a fair bit of power and they gave it all up for a shitty atv ref 

[steviewevie]