news & politics:discussion

[steviewevie]

and there was Andy Burnham the other day complaining that the 2007 Ashes series won't be at any northern grounds.

[steviewevie]

who will win in Spain...right or left?

BET NOW!

(I bet right, because it's very fashionable on the continent these days...and that will be a mix of right and far right which is so en vogue darling)

[steviewevie]

5 hours ago, steviewevie said:

 

[pink_triangle]

9 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

I think that’s a dodgy use of statistics. Turnout was down by 20 percent, on that basis your going to struggle to get much more

[steviewevie]

17 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

I think that’s a dodgy use of statistics. Turnout was down by 20 percent, on that basis your going to struggle to get much more

Instead of voting labour they just didn't bother voting. What will they do next year?

Edited July 23, 2023 by steviewevie

[pink_triangle]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

Instead of voting labour, they just didn't bother voting. What will they do next year?

I suspect supporters of both parties stayed at home, at this time of the year many are on holiday and doubt many would go to the effort in a by-election when turnout are traditionally down. In a general election turnout will improve and that may mean labour lose the seat, but this isn’t a seat labour need to win.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, pink_triangle said:

I suspect supporters of both parties stayed at home, at this time of the year many are on holiday and doubt many would go to the effort in a by-election when turnout are traditionally down. In a general election turnout will improve and that may mean labour lose the seat, but this isn’t a seat labour need to win.

Boundary changes means Selby becomes easier for Labour to get/keep so they might not end up losing it. 

[Guest]

 

[steviewevie]

5 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

I suspect supporters of both parties stayed at home, at this time of the year many are on holiday and doubt many would go to the effort in a by-election when turnout are traditionally down. In a general election turnout will improve and that may mean labour lose the seat, but this isn’t a seat labour need to win.

Ok..but I mean do the maths.

Anyway, from what I can gather there is a massive anti govt feeling amongst Tory voters  but they're not necessarily going to labour, they're not necessarily going anywhere yet.

[pink_triangle]

9 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Boundary changes means Selby becomes easier for Labour to get/keep so they might not end up losing it. 

Im disappointed to see some “so called” labour supporters going on about what school the new MP went to and the fact he did some work for someone who was a Tory MP many years ago. Why not give the bloke a chance. Fact is if they had put forward a very left candidate he may not have won in an area that is not very left.

[pink_triangle]

6 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Ok..but I mean do the maths.

Anyway, from what I can gather there is a massive anti govt feeling amongst Tory voters  but they're not necessarily going to labour, they're not necessarily going anywhere yet.

I mean from my perspective to get 3000ish more votes, in an area which has consistently voted Tory, with 1/3 less of the votes to fight over seems a pretty good result. I’m not sure what people would be consider a good amount of votes to win.

Im sure there are Tory voters who won’t vote labour and stayed at home, I hope some will make the same decision next year.

[Neil]

32 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Instead of voting labour they just didn't bother voting. What will they do next year?

lots of tories cannot vote labour same as this labour cannot vote tory.

[steviewevie]

11 minutes ago, Neil said:

lots of tories cannot vote labour same as this labour cannot vote tory.

But will they vote in the general election, and if they do who for?

[steviewevie]

 

[Neil]

27 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

But will they vote in the general election, and if they do who for?

Same asv seen in those stats ^, stay at home 

[Guest]

 

 

[zahidf]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

 

 

[steviewevie]

12 minutes ago, zahidf said:

 

Going to the wire.

[Neil]

radio4 are saying the pissed off tories will stay at home rather than switch who they vot for.

[Neil]

if you want to end the 2 child cap, find a way to pay for it.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jul/23/keir-starmer-excludes-uncosted-policies-in-victory-over-unite-and-activists

[steviewevie]

6 minutes ago, Neil said:

radio4 are saying the pissed off tories will stay at home rather than switch who they vot for.

and that's fine...as long as they don't decide to vote tory because labour are going to tax the sh*t out of them and then take away their cars and boilers.

[Guest]

 

 

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

So...overall look like left has won (in Spain). Vox did particularly badly which is a relief.

[Neil]

59 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

 

 

labour will make husbands wear a dress.