news & politics:discussion

[Neil]

8 minutes ago, Justiceforcedave said:

Everything is totally f**ked and they've been in charge for 12/13 years 🤣

I almost feel sorry for them. I don't though, because they're a bunch of c**ts.

everything is so  badly f**ked there's no magic fix.

[fraybentos1]

17 minutes ago, Neil said:

being better is a consequence of being able to do better. wanting to do better doesn't cause better by default. i don't think a vote is some sort of magic.

You love talking gibberish like this. Even if you don't like Labour, every poll shows people trust labour over the tories with the nhs. All that needs to be done to prove that is show the graph of waiting times comparison between labour and tory govs, it speaks for itself. 

Let's put it this way, you know your take is mental if i am agreeing with ozanne

[fraybentos1]

4 minutes ago, Neil said:

everything is so  badly f**ked there's no magic fix.

Nobody is expecting a magic fix. You're the only one mentioning a magic fix. Why do you keep mentioning magic fixes??

[fraybentos1]

In 1997, Neil would have been sitting there talking about magic wands and how there's no guarantee Labour will be better for the NHS or some other nonsense (probs about guns n roses) and then that graph above happened... Looks like it can be done, no magic wands required.

 

[Guest]

22 minutes ago, Neil said:

its a good angle to demonstrate that a change of party of govt doesn't magically change the state of the nhs.

A Labour government will always improve the NHS and its services. I don’t think the public will get taken in by this line of attack from the Tories. 

[steviewevie]

9 minutes ago, Neil said:

everything is so  badly f**ked there's no magic fix.

I guess they could put on their election leaflets "Everything is f**ked but it's going to stay like that no matter what so you may as well stick with us. Vote Conservative"

[steviewevie]

...but looks like printed media are going to be helping the tory campaign, and some of this stuff will likely stick in voters mind...can't trust labour with this and that..starmer lies and flip flops....etc etc. Is going to be relentless.

[Guest]

 

 

 

 

[Neil]

3 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

 

 

 

 

nutters suggest we have a vote on the end of the world?

[Neil]

trump is going to be charged with electoral fraud in Georgia.

[Ryan1984]

36 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

 

 

 

 

What a great idea… A referendum won’t cause any issues whatsoever.

[steviewevie]

51 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

 

 

 

 

Terrific idea

[steviewevie]

 

[Neil]

for those complaining abvout interest rates, good job you're not in argenbtina

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Argentina's central bank will raise the benchmark interest rate to 118% from 97% previously,

 

[fraybentos1]

Once again pensioners getting a better deal than working people 

[Ryan1984]

Apparently UK wages are rising. Rishi will love that.

[lost]

31 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

Once again pensioners getting a better deal than working people 

Highest wage growth on record apparently. Great thing about the triple lock now inflation has come down it gets set by a different measure which is higher.

Sadly for us Gen X's and below I think this just hastens the state pensions demise in its current form.

Edited August 15, 2023 by lost

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, lost said:

Highest wage growth on record apparently. Great thing about the triple lock now inflation has come down it gets set by a different measure which is higher.

wage growth higher than this pension hike isn't it? Regular pay up 7.8%? 

[steviewevie]

Anyway, stick interest rates up...this must not be allowed to continue.

[lost]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

wage growth higher than this pension hike isn't it? Regular pay up 7.8%? 

Its set by the September number I believe 

[steviewevie]

6 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

wage growth higher than this pension hike isn't it? Regular pay up 7.8%? 

...and both still below inflation? 

[lost]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

...and both still below inflation? 

No they are predicting in September inflation will be six point something and wages seven point something so pensioners will get the higher of the two which is wages.

[steviewevie]

7 minutes ago, lost said:

No they are predicting in September inflation will be six point something and wages seven point something so pensioners will get the higher of the two which is wages.

oh right.

Anyway, all helps with cost of living, right? Just might not help with inflation...but they could stick interest rates up to 118% or something to help with that.

[Neil]

Or Russia Which has interest rates at 12%.

[Punksnotdead]

3 hours ago, steviewevie said:

wage growth higher than this pension hike isn't it? Regular pay up 7.8%? 

Mine isn't! ☹️