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[lost]

18 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

I imagine there's a bigger demand for these sort of properties these days.

I'm not sure. Our council tends to knock a load of these back. Mainly because you tend to get young couples who both own a car. The developments tend to have between 1 and 0 spaces for parking for each flat which results in the side streets filing up with cars and so the owners of those houses then complain that they can't park outside their property.

Edited August 30, 2023 by lost

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, lost said:

I'm not sure. Our council tends to knock a load of these back. Mainly because you tend to get young couples who both own a car. The developments tend to have between 1 and 0 spaces for parking for each flat which results in the side streets filing up with cars and so the owners of those houses then complain that they can't park outside their property.

yep, well...we need more houses, fewer cars. Solve that one Labour.

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, Nobody Interesting said:

All government vehicles are exempt - but the Daily Hate wants to pretend it is just Khan.

plus his car is compliant anyway, 90% of cars are.

[Nobody Interesting]

2 hours ago, lost said:

I'm not sure. Our council tends to knock a load of these back. Mainly because you tend to get young couples who both own a car. The developments tend to have between 1 and 0 spaces for parking for each flat which results in the side streets filing up with cars and so the owners of those houses then complain that they can't park outside their property.

Whatever any of us on here think I reckon the INS will have a better grasp on the realities.

So here is their report into the rise and rise of single occupancy dwellings and the expected demand for ever more.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/releases/livingaloneonepersonhouseholds

[Nobody Interesting]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

yep, well...we need more houses, fewer cars. Solve that one Labour.

It really is actually quite easy.

More people want simple, functional housing than ever before (ONS survey) and modular houses, where tested, have proven very popular and are cheap and quick to create. They can be many different sizes and can even be added to once in situ to extend. Some councils in Wales are putting them on council car parks to solve local housing shortages and there are queues to get one as they are that popular.

Add in decent public transport run for the good of the people not the good of the shareholders and Robert is your relative.

It needs investment to do the later but the long term savings on the road building budget will far outweigh the initial costs (ONS report).

We just have to want to change what we do and how we do it............... trouble is the UK is desperate for growth and will therefore carry on the same old methods for shot term boosts to GDP rather than be bothered to try new things that will make things better.

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

It really is actually quite easy.

More people want simple, functional housing than ever before (ONS survey) and modular houses, where tested, have proven very popular and are cheap and quick to create. They can be many different sizes and can even be added to once in situ to extend. Some councils in Wales are putting them on council car parks to solve local housing shortages and there are queues to get one as they are that popular.

Add in decent public transport run for the good of the people not the good of the shareholders and Robert is your relative.

It needs investment to do the later but the long term savings on the road building budget will far outweigh the initial costs (ONS report).

We just have to want to change what we do and how we do it............... trouble is the UK is desperate for growth and will therefore carry on the same old methods for shot term boosts to GDP rather than be bothered to try new things that will make things better.

without growth there is a limit how much can borrow...which means tax rises that people don't like....

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

 

Very good by them … their stuff is superb 

[lost]

Led by Donkeys turning on labour before they've even got in is a bit ominous

[fraybentos1]

6 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

Very good by them … their stuff is superb 

Another of starmer’s broken promises unfortunately 😞 

[steviewevie]

3 minutes ago, lost said:

Led by Donkeys turning on labour before they've even got in is a bit ominous

they may be more naturally aligned, but they do their thing against whoever is in power...and it looks like Labour will be in power so no doubt this won't be the first time... 

[Crazyfool01]

5 minutes ago, lost said:

Led by Donkeys turning on labour before they've even got in is a bit ominous

Yeah I agree ..: not sure of their reach though beyond twitter 

[Nobody Interesting]

19 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

without growth there is a limit how much can borrow...which means tax rises that people don't like....

Reform can save Billions.

Scrapping pointless infrastructure can save Billions.

Investing now in renewables that are state owned will give future profits to the state not shareholders.

Equalising tax for non-earned income with earned income (hardly unfair) pays half the NHS budget (ONS).

It can be done without borrowing, it can be done without taxes apart from on huge wealth.

Like everything, we have to want to change otherwise things will never change.

 

[Nobody Interesting]

24 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

without growth there is a limit how much can borrow...which means tax rises that people don't like....

and here is some info on the modular housing that is quick and cheap (so no money reasons why not).
https://www.gov.wales/factory-made-modular-housing-should-be-used-quickly-increase-supply-wales
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/first-residents-modular-flats-could-26702036

[Guest]

 

The party of law and order at it again  

 

[steviewevie]

6 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

Reform can save Billions.

Scrapping pointless infrastructure can save Billions.

Investing now in renewables that are state owned will give future profits to the state not shareholders.

Equalising tax for non-earned income with earned income (hardly unfair) pays half the NHS budget (ONS).

It can be done without borrowing, it can be done without taxes apart from on huge wealth.

Like everything, we have to want to change otherwise things will never change.

 

well, I'm sure if reform could save billions that could well happen...sceptical personally.

[Nobody Interesting]

5 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

well, I'm sure if reform could save billions that could well happen...sceptical personally.

Even something as simple as  a central purchasing system for the NHS (rather than individual trusts and hospitals buying their own) is calculated to save many billions.

[fraybentos1]

26 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

Reform can save Billions.

Scrapping pointless infrastructure can save Billions.

 

 

such as? hope you don't mean HS2?

[Nobody Interesting]

2 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

such as? hope you don't mean HS2?

75% of the road building scheme is one - roads not wanted or needed especially if the money saved is used to fund public transport......................

 

and HS2, when the former CEO says it is a waste of money you know it really is a waste of money.

[steviewevie]

15 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

75% of the road building scheme is one - roads not wanted or needed especially if the money saved is used to fund public transport......................

 

and HS2, when the former CEO says it is a waste of money you know it really is a waste of money.

ok, so you mean cuts...?

[lost]

I find it difficult to believe 75% of the roads we are building are pointless/not being used

[fraybentos1]

20 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

75% of the road building scheme is one - roads not wanted or needed especially if the money saved is used to fund public transport......................

 

and HS2, when the former CEO says it is a waste of money you know it really is a waste of money.

You mention funding public transport in one paragraph then want hs2 scrapped in the next. 
 

So the U.K. should lag even further behind their peers in terms of high speed rail? High speed rail is an embarrassment in this country. Hs2 shouldn’t be scrapped it should go back to what it was meant to be then add further lines up to glasgow and Edinburgh. Every other country manages to do this stuff bar us 

[fraybentos1]

Just now, lost said:

I find it difficult to believe 75% of the roads we are building are pointless/not being used

Yeah lol that number seems plucked out of thin air 

[lost]

3 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

Yeah lol that number seems plucked out of thin air 

If I was guessing I would think the majority of actual new roads are new housing estates or roads to connect new housing estates to existing roads.

Edited August 30, 2023 by lost

[Nobody Interesting]

30 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

ok, so you mean cuts...?

If your definition of scrapping spending money on something that is not wanted or needed is a cut then yes, these would be cuts.