news & politics:discussion

[Neil]

8 hours ago, lost said:

Incapacity benefits to be changed next week apparently:

 

Damn hope my claim gets processed before that.im claiming to keep my ni stamps up to date not particularly for any other benefit from it if they chuck me some money that'll be great.

[Neil]

The good news is at quarter to ten it's time for elevenses

[squirrelarmy]

14 hours ago, Nobody Interesting said:

and they think yet another PM will change that!!!! They are beyond pathetic.

New PM means a new cabinet so another bunch of money grabbers get their share of the ministerial salary plus the accompanying pay off when they inevitably get removed from that ministerial role. 

[Nobody Interesting]

@steviewevie - I have had a read of some of the Doughnut link and the Action Lab............... and so much is just like reading manifestos from the Green party over the last 25 years.

For me loads is common sense and is things I have said for a long time - because of reading lots inc Green manifestos etc.

There are some bit that I need to look into more  but so far I cannot really disagree with much of it.

Sadly it will never happen while there is money to be made.

[Neil]

18 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

@steviewevie - I have had a read of some of the Doughnut link and the Action Lab............... and so much is just like reading manifestos from the Green party over the last 25 years.

For me loads is common sense and is things I have said for a long time - because of reading lots inc Green manifestos etc.

There are some bit that I need to look into more  but so far I cannot really disagree with much of it.

Sadly it will never happen while there is money to be made.

Talking of common sense have the greens ever backed a Severn barrage?

[Nobody Interesting]

52 minutes ago, Neil said:

Talking of common sense have the greens ever backed a Severn barrage?

I am not a Green councillor or politician so only have the internet to go on to find out detailed party policies like we all do but they oppose a barrage based on there being better, cheaper and less damaging alternatives readily available including North Wales tidal schemes that will cost an estimated £580 million and generate 7% of the UK's power needs vs the 10% for the barrage.

That info was quite easy to find and there is also a long Senedd document on the subject available to read.

What are the policies of your chosen party on the subject?

[Neil]

24 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

I am not a Green councillor or politician so only have the internet to go on to find out detailed party policies like we all do but they oppose a barrage based on there being better, cheaper and less damaging alternatives readily available including North Wales tidal schemes that will cost an estimated £580 million and generate 7% of the UK's power needs vs the 10% for the barrage.

That info was quite easy to find and there is also a long Senedd document on the subject available to read.

What are the policies of your chosen party on the subject?

the greens have opposed the barrage while less green things happened instead.

[Nobody Interesting]

1 hour ago, Neil said:

the greens have opposed the barrage while less green things happened instead.

You do know the Greens are not the government and therefore cannot actually form policy don't you? They opposed those less green things too. Are they not allowed to choose the best green policy or do they have to act on all and any just to keep you happy?

I don't expect replies to the questions - cos you never answer questions choosing instead to just make short ill thought out comments.

I shall not bother to reply again as, like I have said before, I know where this goes if someone carries on chatting to you............... rather like you in real life too on the 2 occasions I met and talked to you. Neither were on any political matters, just politeness and thanks for this site. I learned my lesson and never bothered again.

 

[steviewevie]

at least Burning Man has turned into a mudfest.

[Neil]

1 hour ago, Nobody Interesting said:

You do know the Greens are not the government and therefore cannot actually form policy don't you?

i know their opposition helped ensure it didn't happen.

[steviewevie]

I guess the Greens are a kind of coalition too, from old school tory conservation types, and the more progressive green new deal types...and why they might do pretty well in rural toryish areas, but also cities with their graduate liberal wokeheads. Maybe not enough to win much overall, but maybe enough to make people listen to them. 

[Neil]

24 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

I guess the Greens are a kind of coalition too, from old school tory conservation types, and the more progressive green new deal types...and why they might do pretty well in rural toryish areas, but also cities with their graduate liberal wokeheads. Maybe not enough to win much overall, but maybe enough to make people listen to them. 

Coalition of cranks

[lost]

Greens appear to have a lower vote share than reform on quite a few of the voter intention polls.

[steviewevie]

Got NowTV recently and have done succession and last of us so moved onto Chernobyl and it's kind of put me off this wonderful nuclear power thing everyone keeps going on about.

[steviewevie]

Digging the late 80s soviet chic though.

[Guest]

24 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Got NowTV recently and have done succession and last of us so moved onto Chernobyl and it's kind of put me off this wonderful nuclear power thing everyone keeps going on about.

Chernobyl was an incredible TV show. 

[Neil]

1 hour ago, lost said:

Greens appear to have a lower vote share than reform on quite a few of the voter intention polls.

with none of that much talked about ex-labour boost.

[Guest]

Reform’s vote share in VI polls is massively overstated, they never get anywhere near that in by-elections. 

[mattiloy]

10 hours ago, Ozanne said:

Reform’s vote share in VI polls is massively overstated, they never get anywhere near that in by-elections. 

Greens is also understated - see local elections.

Probably because basically everyone who says they’ll vote green actually does vote whereas the other parties’ supporters have various lesser degrees of political engagement. The thinking mans party.

[Guest]

 

The ads are back!

 

 

[steviewevie]

15 hours ago, lost said:

Greens appear to have a lower vote share than reform on quite a few of the voter intention polls.

I guess Reform has similar but different coalition...takes social conservative voters from tory and labour, and yes could influence both, especially tory party.

Edited September 3, 2023 by steviewevie

[Neil]

No surprise sunak is tanking in the polls.

[steviewevie]

 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

 

He shook up my heart a long time ago. 

[Neil]

lso sue grey's first day as chief of staff tomorrow. let's see what the fuss was about.