news & politics:discussion

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, lost said:

The thing I'm getting from the labour conference is how much power the OBR is going to have during the next parliament

It's all about fiscal responsibility...they feel they have to go above and beyond with all that sh*t..when they get in with a massive majority they'll bin all that and tax and spend like f**king nutters and we'll all have to go work on collective farms and swear allegiance to Sir Keir three times a day.

[mattiloy]

1 minute ago, mattiloy said:

Good policy that. Wonder how long it’ll be before the u-turn.

Also though.. requires people to engage in local politics a lot more.

At the moment local politics is the wild west and councillors are often just your local petty megalomaniac weirdo.

Might be working in the cities where even with 30-40% turnout you get enough of a large sample size to get semi decent politicians but in smaller towns like mine, I could easily see giving them a load of new powers and funds becoming a sh*t show.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

It's all about fiscal responsibility...they feel they have to go above and beyond with all that sh*t..when they get in with a massive majority they'll bin all that and tax and spend like f**king nutters and we'll all have to go work on collective farms and swear allegiance to Sir Keir three times a day.

Rachel Reeves will be able to find loopholes in their fiscal rules to enable them to spend more through means such as the Covid recovery task force, taxes on non-doms and private equity etc. She’s dropped hints on this already, so I imagine there’ll be things she can do. 

[lazyred]

3 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Rachel Reeves will be able to find loopholes in their fiscal rules to enable them to spend more through means such as the Covid recovery task force, taxes on non-doms and private equity etc. She’s dropped hints on this already, so I imagine there’ll be things she can do. 

Those are speculative or raise small amounts. I'm not sure where the tax loop holes are that can raise large amounts. I hope I'm wrong. 

[Neil]

16 minutes ago, mattiloy said:

Also though.. requires people to engage in local politics a lot more.

where they'll veto all house building plans especially if its  on green belt land.

Edited October 10, 2023 by Neil

[steviewevie]

10 minutes ago, lazyred said:

Those are speculative or raise small amounts. I'm not sure where the tax loop holes are that can raise large amounts. I hope I'm wrong. 

going to come from growth apparently...which will come from investments into green techy stuff..which will come from borrowing. Keynes or something.

[steviewevie]

(and they'll increase wealth taxes).

[steviewevie]

Will Keir f**k it up?

BET NOW!

[Neil]

7 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

going to come from growth apparently...which will come from investments into green techy stuff..which will come from borrowing. Keynes or something.

if there's going to be all that housebuilding there should be some decent growth. its good at stimulating sales in all sorts of different sectors.

[Neil]

Just now, steviewevie said:

Will Keir f**k it up?

BET NOW!

no, more likely someone will f**k it up for him.

[steviewevie]

Please Keir...not too long...not too boring...

[steviewevie]

OH NO! A Protester. It's all over.

[steviewevie]

he'll be taken out the back and the sh*t kicked out of him for that.

[Guest]

39 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

It's all about fiscal responsibility...they feel they have to go above and beyond with all that sh*t..when they get in with a massive majority they'll bin all that and tax and spend like f**king nutters and we'll all have to go work on collective farms and swear allegiance to Sir Keir three times a day.

Ozanne wil be gutted. He already does that 10 times a day at least 🙂

[steviewevie]

CON+10

[steviewevie]

hilarious...he's covered in glitter.

At least I hope its glitter.

[Guest]

Hope you've got your box of tissues with you Ozanne

[Crazyfool01]

said it didn't bother him ... clearly it did as he was shaking as  would anyone . Jokes not very funny though 

[steviewevie]

all credit to that protester...to manage that with all the security is impressive.

[steviewevie]

Just now, Crazyfool01 said:

said it didn't bother him ... clearly it did as he was shaking as  would anyone . Jokes not very funny though 

what was he protesting about?

[fraybentos1]

Too many nut jobs out there, I know that was just glitter but it’s scary how easily they can get in to stuff like this. 

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

what was he protesting about?

The quality of Glitter these days 

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, fraybentos1 said:

Too many nut jobs out there, I know that was just glitter but it’s scary how easily they can get in to stuff like this. 

yeah fair comment although needs a balance with peaceful legitimate protest .... went to far there

[fraybentos1]

Watched it a few times and can’t even make out what the protestor is saying. Dafty. 

[fraybentos1]

Just now, Crazyfool01 said:

yeah fair comment although needs a balance with peaceful legitimate protest .... went to far there

All for protest but I’m not a fan of that personally. Not least cause I don’t even know what he was protesting about lol