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[fraybentos1]

2 minutes ago, Neil said:

it wasn't a struggle to do the income lie, or find a hooky mortgage - those things were  very standard at the time. everyone was doing it, and it exposes the truth that houses were never an easy purchase.

Why would you do it if you were earning 35k and the average house price was 60k 🤣🤣 why on earth would you lie about your salary 😂 to what end?

you're such a liar. or a moron. or both 

[fraybentos1]

Neil claiming he earned 3x the average salary in 1989 which is the equivalent of like 100k today lol.

but still opting to lie about his salary and take a 110% mortgage hahaha, 

sorry but what did you claim your salary was when you lied about it??? 

[Neil]

14 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

Yeah this is mental, his house would have been like 2 times his income. He's a compulsive liar 

i could have bought cheaper, but bought a specific house for specific reasons. and needed the tricks to pull it off.

[fraybentos1]

3 minutes ago, Neil said:

i could have bought cheaper, but bought a specific house for specific reasons. and needed the tricks to pull it off.

cost of said house?

[fraybentos1]

you didn't earn 35k in 1989 Neil, I'm really sorry to tell you that 

[Neil]

Just now, fraybentos1 said:

Neil claiming he earned 3x the average salary in 1989 which is the equivalent of like 100k today lol.

have you seen how much qualified tradesmen earn today??????
(also i was self employed so earning well)

i can remember one day around that time where i'd earnt£200 and was back in bed by 9am.

 

Just now, fraybentos1 said:

but still opting to lie about his salary and take a 110% mortgage hahaha, 

sorry but what did you claim your salary was when you lied about it??? 

i did what was needed in order to buy the house i wanted(same as anyone would do today).

 

can't remember what i lied my income to be - its a very long time ago.

 

[fraybentos1]

£35,000 in 1989 is worth £107,385.32 today

 

can't believe you gave up this fictional salary to run efestivals neil!

[Neil]

1 minute ago, fraybentos1 said:

cost of said house?

£75k i think - very long time ago (more years ago than you've been alive)

[fraybentos1]

Just now, Barry Fish said:

You could have been approved for a mortgage which was twice the average house price of the time.  For all this to be true you would of had to been looking to buy a huge house.

aye like f**king 5 bedrooms or something, it's all lies

[fraybentos1]

Just now, Neil said:

£75k i think - very long time ago (more years ago than you've been alive)

you were on 35k and bought a 75k house and needed to lie about you income lol and get a 110% mortgage

sorry but thats the dumbest thing ive every heard

its barely over 2x your income 

you're a fool 

[Neil]

1 minute ago, fraybentos1 said:

£35,000 in 1989 is worth £107,385.32 today

 

can't believe you gave up this fictional salary to run efestivals neil!

i went thru a whole other career before efests - and efests  was very lucrative for a while.

[fraybentos1]

you're a bad liar neil, sorry to say it 

[Neil]

2 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

You could have been approved for a mortgage which was twice the average house price of the time.  For all this to be true you would of had to been looking to buy a huge house.

it was a 5 bed house in expensive home counties commuter belt.

[fraybentos1]

Just now, Neil said:

it was a 5 bed house in expensive home counties commuter belt.

for 2.1x your salary 

and you still f**ked it up

[Neil]

Just now, fraybentos1 said:

you're a bad liar neil, sorry to say it 

c'mon mr know it all, tell me what you've invented yourself. 

[Neil]

1 minute ago, fraybentos1 said:

for 2.1x your salary 

and you still f**ked it up

the tories f**ked it up with 16% interest rates. mortgage payments went from around £400pm to around £900pm.

Edited October 26, 2023 by Neil

[fraybentos1]

2 minutes ago, Neil said:

the tories f**ked it up with 16% interest rates. mortgage payments went from around £400pm to around £900pm.

which is still under half of your made up take home pay. For a five bed gaff i think that's not bad

 

4 minutes ago, Neil said:

c'mon mr know it all, tell me what you've invented yourself. 

you didn't earn 35k in 1989, you lied

[Neil]

Just now, fraybentos1 said:

which is still under half of your made up take home pay. For a five bed gaff i think that's not bad

 

you didn't earn 35k in 1989, you lied

maybe i didn't thats my memory of what i was earning.i was a sparky on piece work

[fraybentos1]

Just now, Barry Fish said:

Where am I going wrong ? 

he's making it up

 

1 minute ago, Neil said:

maybe i didn't thats my memory of what i was earning.i was a sparky on piece work

that's as close as we're gonna get to you admitting you made it up. thanks for the confirmation 

[Neil]

1 minute ago, Barry Fish said:

£75k + 110% mortgage = £82.5k...

Interest rates in 1989 where around 15% meaning a repayment of around £1075...

Interest rates going to 16% meaning a repayment of around £1121..

Where am I going wrong ? 

perhaps your maths today is better than my memories of stuff i've had no need to remember for 30+ years until this convo.

[Neil]

2 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

he's making it up

 

that's as close as we're gonna get to you admitting you made it up. thanks for the confirmation 

if i never owned that house why did i later pay the mortgage company £10+k in repossession losses?

 

can you remember your conception from 30+ years ago? then why are you expecting perfect memory from me?

[Neil]

4 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

I think so at this point.  And its fair enough to admit you got it wrong.

if i insisted everything i've said is 100% accurate g (cos my memory isn't perfect cos my brain has been fried), that would be the making it up, vacuous frey has been sayin - guess he's pissed off that I've had a more successful past that i f**ked up  than he'll ever get close to.

Edited October 26, 2023 by Neil

[fraybentos1]

2 minutes ago, Neil said:

if i insisted everything i've said is 100% accurate g (cos my memory isn't perfect cos my brain has been fried), that would be the making it up, 

just admit you got it wrong and leave it maybe then eh? stop crying cause your bullshit got called out

 

2 minutes ago, Neil said:

guess he's pissed off that I've had a more successful past that i f**ked up  than he'll ever get close to.

you know nothing about me 🙂 

[Neil]

Just now, fraybentos1 said:

just admit you got it wrong and leave it maybe then eh? stop crying cause your bullshit got called out

 

you know nothing about me 🙂 

i know you're enough of a waster to post here all day.

just looking at rightmove for houses in that area now, not seen one for less than £3+M yet.

my house wouldn't be that (had been pulled down last i heard)

[fraybentos1]

1 minute ago, Neil said:

i know you're enough of a waster to post here all day.

come on now Neil, this is rich