news & politics:discussion

[steviewevie]

Thing with Braverman is she says sh*t to stir up divisions and to push her own agenda to become next Tory party leader, but also she is just sh*t at her job.

[steviewevie]

Braverman to be sacked before the weekend?

BET NOW!

[steviewevie]

Braverman will likely be hoping it kicks off at this demo on saturday, the stupid twat.

[Guest]

22 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Braverman will likely be hoping it kicks off at this demo on saturday, the stupid twat.

I think you are right and sadly Sunak isn’t strong enough to do anything about it. So if anything happens it’s on him too. 

[Guest]

Wow. 

[steviewevie]

 

[Guest]

Sunak has got absolutely no control whatsoever. 

[kalifire]

11 hours ago, Ozanne said:

Looks like Braverman wants to be sacked. 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/nov/08/tory-insiders-suggest-suella-braverman-trying-to-get-sacked

[steviewevie]

 

[Guest]

Sunak is so far out of his depth, he has no idea how to deal with any of this. 

[steviewevie]

 

[kalifire]

4 hours ago, Barry Fish said:

Met Chief is confident he can manage both.  I hope so.  His arse will be on the line if it goes wrong.

That “management” is what will likely cause the civil discontent that allows Braverman to falsely claim they’re “hate marches” or “extremists” or other such drivel.

The Met are in a tough spot. Curtail to the unhinged rants of an incompetent Home Sec, or be thrown under her bus. Sunak is spineless for his own political reasons and meanwhile - as always - it’s society that is failed by the governing elite. 

Edited November 9, 2023 by kalifire

[Skip997]

5 minutes ago, kalifire said:

The Met are in a tough spot. Curtail to the unhinged rants of an incompetent fascist Home Sec

 

[Skip997]

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the law does not tell the Met Police commissioner Sir Mark Rowley to take into account the views of ministers. It tells him to assess the risks to the public - and make a plan accordingly.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67367617

[kalifire]

14 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

If the demonstrators stick to their route and behave themselves then there will be no need for them to live up to Home Sec false claims and in turn make them true.  If they are there for genuine demonstration then there is no need to not behave.

Agreed, but we both know that any large protest attracts its break-off groups, which she will seize upon to pretend that they represent the masses. It doesn't stop the masses being there for genuine demonstration. It doesn't warrant heavy handed behaviour on behalf of the met on the vast majority. It certainly doesn't justify Braverman's brand of ugly fascist populism to stifle free protest.

[Skip997]

She may not last much longer

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67368785

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, Skip997 said:

She may not last much longer

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67368785

she'll get sacked, there will be massive riots on saturday, she'll do a massive told you so and will be tory leader and PM this time next week.

BET NOW!

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[steviewevie]

[stuie]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

I'd like to see the age breakdown on this. 

I suspect it will skew that older people are more bothered about Armistice day and younger people will be more bothered about people dying now. 

 

[Skip997]

1 minute ago, stuie said:

I'd like to see the age breakdown on this. 

I suspect it will skew that older people are more bothered about Armistice day and younger people will be more bothered about people dying now.

I reckon your right.

One thing I've noticed in general is less people buying/wearing poppies.

[steviewevie]

Israel going to start doing humanitarian pauses apparently.

[steviewevie]

9 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Israel going to start doing humanitarian pauses apparently.

they will allow any civilians still in North Gaza to escape to South Gaza so they can get bombed there instead.

[squirrelarmy]

A lot of it is down to personal remembrance.

The family and friends I know who went to war all came back so I don’t have anyone to remember personally.

As the years go by less people have died in conflict so unless you have a personal connection to someone in the military or you’re in a public facing role or work with older generations it’s not as much as a thing.