news & politics:discussion

[Ryan1984]

2 hours ago, pink_triangle said:

The public will no doubt fall into his trap and vote him to do everything, when best plan would be starve him from attention.

Worked for Hancock…

Cameron’s return seems to be another scraping of the barrel.

[steviewevie]

so...doesn't he need to be an MP or lord?

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

ok...Starmer needs to bring back Blair now.

[steviewevie]

Just now, steviewevie said:

ok...Starmer needs to bring back Blair now.

shadow foreign sec.

[steviewevie]

 

[Skip997]

Have to say I'm shocked.

I never expected a far right government to sack a fascist.

[lazyred]

24 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

ok...Starmer needs to bring back Blair now.

Apparently the Isrealis want him to help out in Gaza! 

[steviewevie]

Trying to win back the blue wall.

[steviewevie]

8 minutes ago, lazyred said:

Apparently the Isrealis want him to help out in Gaza! 

Yeah like the Arab world have such a high regard of him.

Edited November 13, 2023 by steviewevie

[steviewevie]

Amazing dead cat

 

[lazyred]

15 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

I get his legacy is trashed following Brexit but why on earth he would want to anchor himself to the sinking ship Rishi is a bit beyond me.  Maybe the guest speaker money has run dry.

He got millions from lobbying for that dodgy company to get some covid money

[Kurosagi]

"...money-grabbing has-been" sums it up quite nicely:

 

[steviewevie]

so much for change.

[stuie]

I think the thing that this screams to me is that the Tory team is so weak, they are having to recruit from outside of it. 

There's literally no talent left to fill the cabinet roles. 

 

 

[steviewevie]

but Cleverly and Cameron jobs maybe indicating that Sunak wants to move away from all the populist right wing stuff towards more liberal stuff ...maybe they've given up on retaining red wall but don't want to lose blue wall...?

[Kurosagi]

It's all desperate end of days for them isn't it.

Last chance pig trough saloon, get those snouts in there boys.

[Kurosagi]

So even amongst tory voters he is still marmite as well as being despised by the rest of the country:

 

[squirrelarmy]

5 minutes ago, Kurosagi said:

It's all desperate end of days for them isn't it.

Last chance pig trough saloon, get those snouts in there boys.

Lock up your pigs, Daddy Cameron is back in town. 

[kalifire]

Absolute desperation from Sunak. Bringing back the guy who gave the country Brexit and austerity 😂

[Kurosagi]

Interesting choice of day for this minister at the Dept of Health to announce he's stepping down from government. He'd already announced back in June that he was quitting as MP and not facing the next general election (majority of only 9k). Speculation that despite the guff in his resignation letter that perhaps the stars are aligning for a May GE?

 

[Kurosagi]

Speculation like this for example:

 

[Kurosagi]

6 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

Also any true rising talent probably doesn't want to wed themselves to this sinking ship.  Better to wait a few years.

Or just leave politics entirely. It's not just Will Quince that's leaving, a bunch of others have resigned today as well. Zombie govt until the GE given that it's the junior ministers who get the work done.

 

[stuie]

8 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

Also any true rising talent probably doesn't want to wed themselves to this sinking ship.  Better to wait a few years.

The rising talent leans heavily to the right as well… likes of Kemi B etc. 

They need to face facts now… it’s over! 

[stuie]

2 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

Them leaning to the right might be an issue for you and most members of this forum but its less of an issue for the rest of the country as history of elections show.  The country usually votes right.

The problem is this government is out of ideas and out of energy and have made too many mistakes.

Well, I'd disagree with that in so far as the Tories have never been as right wing as they are now.  And other parties like UKIP have never had any major success. 

This time will be different.