news & politics:discussion

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, Skip997 said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67417570

A few subtle differences...

[Skip997]

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When a standalone bill providing $14.3bn (£11.5bn) in US aid to Israel was introduced in the House of Representatives, only two Republicans - Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia and Thomas Massie of Kentucky - voted no.

Their isolated opposition is a far cry from the significant and growing number of Republicans who oppose continued US support for Ukraine, the world's other current major international conflict.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67422238

[fred quimby]

15 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

Sounds look the government is going to keep pushing Rwanda...  

What else are you going to do with a dead horse

[Guest]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

Maybe, as others have argued, this Rwanda thing will keep any Labour rebellion later off the front pages....

Cough cough 😉

[steviewevie]

15 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Cough cough 😉

unless the rebellion is MASSIVE and everyone quits and joins the SNP.

[steviewevie]

but on that...

 

[steviewevie]

I think a really stupid decision by Labour to whip MPs on this one...no need, just let a free vote happen.

[squirrelarmy]

4 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

I think a really stupid decision by Labour to whip MPs on this one...no need, just let a free vote happen.

Gets rid of the nutcases who instead of wanting rid of the Tories want to be the eternal opposition against the government.

As always Labours biggest enemy is Labour. 

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, squirrelarmy said:

Gets rid of the nutcases who instead of wanting rid of the Tories want to be the eternal opposition against the government.

As always Labours biggest enemy is Labour. 

they're not nutcases for wanting a ceasefire. Afzal Khan will likely be one of them, he's my MP and a good guy.

[squirrelarmy]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

they're not nutcases for wanting a ceasefire. Afzal Khan will likely be one of them, he's my MP and a good guy.

Not the time for a labour rebellion though. Tories are in shambles so should be focusing on that and not letting a fringe issue define our countries politics. 

[Neil]

6 hours ago, Barry Fish said:

It fits what we already know about Hamas so why wouldn't we believe it.  You going to belive Hamas ?

I'm going to believe the USA isn't beyond lying about this.

[Neil]

6 hours ago, steviewevie said:

last time it dropped by so much was 1992...the same year that John Major pulled off that surprise election win....😐

labour had an unpopular leader, so not the same.

[steviewevie]

17 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

Not the time for a labour rebellion though. Tories are in shambles so should be focusing on that and not letting a fringe issue define our countries politics. 

well yeah...but this isn't a fringe issue for many of these MPs...but in the end I don't know why Starmer bothering enforcing the whip, seems unnecessary on something that will actually not have an effect on anything but is a massive principle to a lot of people.

[steviewevie]

3 minutes ago, Neil said:

labour had an unpopular leader, so not the same.

err...Starmer is popular?

[steviewevie]

and the backdrop to this vote is IDF raiding this hospital in search of Hamas, meanwhile babies in incubators are dying because power has been cut off. 

[Skip997]

32 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

Not the time for a labour rebellion though. Tories are in shambles so should be focusing on that and not letting a fringe issue define our countries politics. 

"Fringe issue"????

Trying to stop the relentless murder of Palestinian women and children is a "fringe issue"

[squirrelarmy]

Just now, Skip997 said:

"Fringe issue"????

Trying to stop the relentless murder of Palestinian women and children is a "fringe issue"

I thought you weren’t commenting on this subject any more. 

[steviewevie]

France have issued an arrest warrant for Assad for war crimes.

[Skip997]

3 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

France have issued an arrest warrant for Assad for war crimes.

Warming up and getting in practice for Benjamin Netanyahu

[lost]

5 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

France have issued an arrest warrant for Assad for war crimes.

Now that is a fringe issue. When muslims kill other muslims your lucky to get half a dozen people at the protest.

[steviewevie]

15 minutes ago, lost said:

Now that is a fringe issue. When muslims kill other muslims your lucky to get half a dozen people at the protest.

indeed....also Labour voted no to action against Syria for using chemical weapons...

[steviewevie]

🤔

 

[steviewevie]

the lib dems have their own amendment too...

I expect Hamas and Israeli govt will be following all this very closely...

[steviewevie]

batshit