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[Guest]

52 minutes ago, cellar said:

You're confusing absolute vs relative, I think. So I'll leave it there, as I've got walls that I could go and bang my head against!

I’ve gone through the issues the OBR highlight and the main area you’re pointing out is because GDP growth was higher than expected this year when it doesn’t feel like for people at all. I think most people would see the points I’ve highlighted and realise that the picture isn’t very positive at all. It only seems to be Tories that are trying to paint the economy/Statement as better than it is so go for it. 

[steviewevie]

Take Back Control

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austerity #2

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[Guest]

8 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

austerity #2

A booming economy if I ever saw one…

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1 minute ago, Ozanne said:

A booming economy if I ever saw one…

if they actually cared about the country and not their election chances they would reverse those cuts. We do not need a cut in public spending.

Almost hope the tories win so they have to deal with it.

Almost.

[steviewevie]

meanwhile Israel-Hamas postponed...Hamas can't find the hostages or making more demands or something according to Israel side...and director of Al Shifa hospital has been taken for questioning by IDF.

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Tory voters coming back from reform due to the tax cuts then seeing todays immigration figures:

[steviewevie]

Now Cleverly saying he called the MP sh*t, not his constituency.

🤔

[steviewevie]

I wonder if anyone say there is a reason we have high migration, and not just call it a disgrace etc forever.

[Guest]

If this was a Labour MP the media would be having kittens over it. Cleverly should be sacked. 

[steviewevie]

22 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

If this was a Labour MP the media would be having kittens over it. Cleverly should be sacked. 

not that clear really.

[Guest]

12 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

not that clear really.

He definitely doesn’t say ‘sh*t MP’. 

[steviewevie]

2 hours ago, Ozanne said:

He definitely doesn’t say ‘sh*t MP’. 

Maybe he was telling the person next to him he really needed a sh*t.

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Maybe he was telling the person next to him he really needed a sh*t.

We’ve all been there tbf to him. 

[steviewevie]

maybe he was saying to Sunak I am coming for your job you little sh*t.

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[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

 

is that the Cameron/Braverman or autumn statement poll bounce?

[steviewevie]

I see a certain Braverman is using the latest migration figures to have a pop at the government, because she was no where near government when these numbers were going up.

They are expected to be at a peak and will likely settle back to 300k (saw that somewhere)...it went up post pandemic with non eu migration to fill health/social care vacancies, and there was also numbers coming from Ukraine/HongKong. We can cut numbers, but will likely damage the economy. High immigration numbers has likely helped keep the economy out of a recession this year.

But, these numbers obviously upset people for a variety of reasons, look how people are voting across europe. Labour are saying these numbers are too high for electoral reasons. People don't like immigrants, ignoring the fact that without them our beloved NHS wouldn't function.

Edited November 24, 2023 by steviewevie

[steviewevie]

this guy is where I got that 300k and other stuff from...long thread with lots of graphs...

 

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...and shows that Boris might have been Mr Brexit, but he was also pretty liberal on all this stuff. 

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When people's lives are sh*t...they often point their fingers at immigrants as the reason.

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