news & politics:discussion

[Guest]

Merry Christmas everyone!

[steviewevie]

6 hours ago, Yoghurt on a Stick said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001q7qz/storyville-blue-box

I get that it is all sus how the Jews took land from Palestinians, the balfour thing and zionist terrorists and all that....but isn't it a bit rich criticising when europeans colonised, displaced and murdered loads and loads a century or so ago...the Americas, Australia etc etc?

Anyway. Happy Christmas. Let's hope no Christians get killed in Gaza today or maybe America really will have to call for a ceasefire.

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

4 hours ago, steviewevie said:

I get that it is all sus how the Jews took land from Palestinians, the balfour thing and zionist terrorists and all that....but isn't it a bit rich criticising when europeans colonised, displaced and murdered loads and loads a century or so ago...the Americas, Australia etc etc?

Anyway. Happy Christmas. Let's hope no Christians get killed in Gaza today or maybe America really will have to call for a ceasefire.

The whole world's a mess in my opinion. Always has been, and probably always will be. Capitalism, desire for power, religion, greed etc are all the ingredients needed to create such a mess. I don't have any solutions, but do think it's a shame. We could all be living more equally and in peace. However, we just keep making the same old mistakes.*

Anyway, I don't know enough about politics to be on this thread, really. I only posted that because I have been told that it's very powerful and offers insight. I haven't seen it myself, but it has been on in the background a number of times, so I have seen other people's reactions to it.

* - I hate all management speak, with the exception of this one;

'If you always do what you always did, then you'll always get what you always got'. 

[Skip997]

2 hours ago, Yoghurt on a Stick said:

We could all be living more equally and in peace. However, we just keep making the same old mistakes.*

Even if/when some try, we just get told “that’ll never work”. Well how the f**k do they know when they won’t even try?
 

It’s deliberate, keeps those in power in control and those with money get to keep the money. 
 

Power isn’t about politics, it’s about controlling money, resources and the means of production 

[steviewevie]

It's human nature, survival of the fittest, no time for weak wokey snowflakes.

Got Jordan Peterson's book for Christmas.

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

35 minutes ago, Skip997 said:

Even if/when some try, we just get told “that’ll never work”. Well how the f**k do they know when they won’t even try?
 

It’s deliberate, keeps those in power in control and those with money get to keep the money. 
 

Power isn’t about politics, it’s about controlling money, resources and the means of production 

You have

[steviewevie]

Maybe they should put women in charge, and if that doesn't work robots.

[philipsteak]

I for one welcome our new AI overlords 

[Neil]

37 minutes ago, philipsteak said:

I for one welcome our new AI overlords 

[Rufus Gwertigan]

2 hours ago, steviewevie said:

 

Got Jordan Peterson's book for Christmas.

You have my condolences.

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[Neil]

skippy loves to go on about the lack of food in gaza, UN are fund raising for food aid, i wonder how much he's chipped in - or is feeding them not his point?

[Guest]

 

[steviewevie]

12 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

 

Plots?

[steviewevie]

 

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[Neil]

14 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

Does anyone think the Palestinians would accept that the loss of productive land for desert?

[Neil]

And Israel would just have another hostile state on its border.

[steviewevie]

14 minutes ago, Neil said:

Does anyone think the Palestinians would accept that the loss of productive land for desert?

looks like Israel are pushing for a one state solution.

[Guest]

46 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Plots?

Right wing spin innit?

[Neil]

44 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

looks like Israel are pushing for a one state solution.

two states only works with a peaceful Palestinian state that isn't throwing bombs over the border.

[steviewevie]

55 minutes ago, Neil said:

two states only works with a peaceful Palestinian state that isn't throwing bombs over the border.

well yeah, that and many other things would need to happen, which is probably why it never will.