Skip997 Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 14 hours ago, Neil said: skippy loves to go on about the lack of food in gaza, UN are fund raising for food aid, i wonder how much he's chipped in - or is feeding them not his point? Little point when Israel won’t let it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip997 Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Neil said: And Israel would just have another hostile state on its border. Egypt are not hostile to Israel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip997 Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 2 hours ago, steviewevie said: looks like Israel are pushing for a one state solution. Have people only just started to notice? This has always been the plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 9 minutes ago, Skip997 said: Have people only just started to notice? This has always been the plan did that plan involve Hamas attacking on Oct 7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Skip997 said: Egypt are not hostile to Israel Recent event! They've been part of the attacking armies more than once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Skip997 said: Have people only just started to notice? This has always been the plan if its always been the plan why did Israel let the Palestinians to return in big numbers 20-ish years ago. the facts don't align with your hate-take. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 50 minutes ago, Neil said: if its always been the plan why did Israel let the Palestinians to return in big numbers 20-ish years ago. the facts don't align with your hate-take. problem is, there are many on the right who do want Israel to just drive out all Palestinians and take the whole lot...and they just happen to be in power....and ironically the more that Palestinians fight back the more power these right wingers have. The extremists on both sides feed each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 24 minutes ago, steviewevie said: problem is, there are many on the right who do want Israel to just drive out all Palestinians and take the whole lot...and they just happen to be in power....and ironically the more that Palestinians fight back the more power these right wingers have. The extremists on both sides feed each other. The right wingers want a lot more than Gaza and west bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 tory's are going to pump the housing market and push up prices even more. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/dec/26/tories-to-promise-help-for-first-time-buyers-in-effort-to-lure-voters-say-reports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 15 minutes ago, Neil said: tory's are going to pump the housing market and push up prices even more. if labour don't pump the market to avoid a house price slump they'll have trouble avoiding a recession, and delivering promised things that need a growing economy to fund them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 here's a new one - cheating using anal beads...... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/27/chinese-chess-champion-stripped-of-title-after-defecating-in-hotel-bathtub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 8 hours ago, Neil said: tory's are going to pump the housing market and push up prices even more. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/dec/26/tories-to-promise-help-for-first-time-buyers-in-effort-to-lure-voters-say-reports yeah, won't work, and will just make problem worse. Dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 14 minutes ago, steviewevie said: Spring general election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 3 hours ago, steviewevie said: yeah, won't work, and will just make problem worse. Dumb. it'll work at getting some extra peeps to buy, won't cure the housing crisis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 12 minutes ago, Neil said: it'll work at getting some extra peeps to buy, won't cure the housing crisis. yeah, just fuels demand, when it's the supply side that needs sorting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cellar Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, Barry Fish said: Accessibility to the market and the cost / amount of housing are not the same problem and need to be dealt with separately. Both matter. No point having low cost housing if you need a 50% deposit... it would be better for most people to have high prices and 100% mortgages. Completely agree, saving up for a deposit is such a barrier to entry. Next year is a year of big saving for us, but once we can finally get a place our disposable income goes back up (because it'll cost less to pay the mortgage than to save up the massive deposit). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 42 minutes ago, Barry Fish said: One of the problems we have is developers don't want to build many more houses so they can keep prices higher so they make more per unit. There is no reason for house builders to build more houses than they currently do as they just water down the same pot. The only way of getting more house build is for governments to incentivise developers to build more properties which is costly. prices are high cos builders like to get paid and so do materials suppliers - good houses cant be delivered cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 2 hours ago, steviewevie said: yeah, just fuels demand, when it's the supply side that needs sorting. The Tories never deal with supply because they don’t want people to actually be able to own their own homes. It’s a thing their supporters always avoid talking about whenever housing is discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 I was personally disgusted with Red Thatcher and her communist right to buy scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 The Tories only pretend to want people to own their own homes and put this half baked measures in place without doing the big picture measures. I imagine it’s either because it’s either a status thing or because they want to keep rent coming to their mates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Barry Fish said: This literally makes no sense. Tories have always been about home ownership. Only since Thatcher .an idea she invented to justify her council house sell off Edited December 27, 2023 by Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 28 minutes ago, Barry Fish said: I was really lucky. First time I bought a house I got a 102% mortgage! It made it so much easier and we had some money to do the place up. I got a 110% mortgage from a dodgy broker who was earning big on the commissions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Ozanne said: The Tories only pretend to want people to own their own homes and put this half baked measures in place without doing the big picture measures. I imagine it’s either because it’s either a status thing or because they want to keep rent coming to their mates. Think it's mostly about avoiding a house price crash and the recession that would follow Cos that would f**k people more than high house prices do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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