news & politics:discussion

[steviewevie]

10 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

I wonder who The Guardian supports, they hates Corbyn, seem to have this stories against Starmer’s Labour. What is their goal? Are they Lib Dem?

Not having a go at them, they are my news paper of choice but they seem pretty odd. 

They have journalists who talk to people in labour. Maybe someone in labour is leaking because unhappy, or it's a bit of kite flying, or whatever. 

Edited January 12 by steviewevie

[steviewevie]

They did the 28bill story and hey presto..

[Guest]

24 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

They have journalists who talk to people in labour. Maybe someone in labour is leaking because unhappy, or it's a bit of kite flying, or whatever. 

You are probably right there, someone in Labour is leaking rubbish. Labour need to get on top of that. 

[Guest]

 

[Neil]

1 hour ago, Ozanne said:

I wonder who The Guardian supports, they hates Corbyn, seem to have this stories against Starmer’s Labour. What is their goal? Are they Lib Dem?

Not having a go at them, they are my news paper of choice but they seem pretty odd. 

They didn't hate Corbyn they were (unlike you ) smart enough to know he was a sh*t choice as leader. And then they didn't pretend about his faults (like you're still doing).

Corbyn was ruined by his own history and character not by the guardian or the media .

[Neil]

23 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

 

Why is it unlawful to claim a business expense as a business expense?

[steviewevie]

10 minutes ago, Neil said:

They didn't hate Corbyn they were (unlike you ) smart enough to know he was a sh*t choice as leader. And then they didn't pretend about his faults (like you're still doing).

Corbyn was ruined by his own history and character not by the guardian or the media .

Didn't guardian support labour in 2017 and 2019?

[steviewevie]

That evil neolib zionist ultra right wing Arabist academic was on newsnight, also suggesting coordination between the groups with links to Iran.

[steviewevie]

And conclusion from newsnight is we're heading into a war between the west and the rest. Need to work out who's side I'm on.

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Didn't guardian support labour in 2017 and 2019?

I think they weren’t against them but were pretty critical. 

[steviewevie]

and if Trump wins it's all over for liberal democracies. 

Night night.

[Neil]

10 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

That evil neolib zionist ultra right wing Arabist academic was on newsnight, also suggesting coordination between the groups with links to Iran.

an evil conspiracy works in Israel's favour.

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

I think they weren’t against them but were pretty critical. 

Well they're pretty critical of starmer too...and they probably have been critical of many other labour leaders in the past. Also..some writers on the paper are more lefty than others.

[Neil]

Just now, steviewevie said:

and if Trump wins it's all over for liberal democracies. 

Night night.

might be over before that. its Taiwan elections this weekend.

[Neil]

Just now, steviewevie said:

Well they're pretty critical of starmer too...and they probably have been critical of many other labour leaders in the past. Also..some writers on the paper are more lefty than others.

they don't roll over they think.

[Neil]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

Well they're pretty critical of starmer too...and they probably have been critical of many other labour leaders in the past. Also..some writers on the paper are more lefty than others.

reckon the guardian probably slaughtered Ramsey MacDonald.

[Neil]

1 hour ago, Barry Fish said:

The article talks about penalties and fines but these where neither.  They where compensation agreements which are tax deductible.  I think the article is full of sh*t.

radio 4 just reported on this and said tax experts say the compensation isn't tax deductable. i'll accept that as correct. but if it was mny business i'd put it thru as a valid business expense.

[Rufus Gwertigan]

7 hours ago, Ozanne said:

 

I watched the programme and it still leaves so many questions. I understand the law with the police and the CPS and there are checks and balances, but I don't understand that so many cases could be brought privately. Who monitors this. From the TV the people were not interviewed under the PACE act I.e. having recordings. 

What a shower of sh*t.

[Justiceforcedave]

7 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

I know the first £30,000 of compensation is usually tax free and then its subject to the usual income tax rules.  But from the business side I would of thought it was deductable against corporation tax.  Can't really argue against accounts though.  Be interested to read more on this but can't find a none pay walled article 

If you fancy a bit of pay wall avoiding (freeloading 😉), you can run most paywall sites through an archive website by copy pasting the URL into this http://archive.is and can then view the archived page without the paywall.

[steviewevie]

2 hours ago, Rufus Gwertigan said:

I watched the programme and it still leaves so many questions. I understand the law with the police and the CPS and there are checks and balances, but I don't understand that so many cases could be brought privately. Who monitors this. From the TV the people were not interviewed under the PACE act I.e. having recordings. 

What a shower of sh*t.

Is it not the same with non payment of license fees or council taxes?

Edited January 13 by steviewevie

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

2 hours ago, Rufus Gwertigan said:

I watched the programme and it still leaves so many questions. I understand the law with the police and the CPS and there are checks and balances, but I don't understand that so many cases could be brought privately. Who monitors this. From the TV the people were not interviewed under the PACE act I.e. having recordings. 

What a shower of sh*t.

got to remember also that these cases were happening over a decade or two, not at same time...and all across the country.

[Rufus Gwertigan]

48 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

got to remember also that these cases were happening over a decade or two, not at same time...and all across the country.

I get that. But surely the fraud investigators saw an increase on cases.

I worked for the Child Support Agency in an office where everything was done manually. That is all cases that the system had f**ked up. We had 2 offices and a few hundred people dealing with this. I can't see how the post office was allowed to continue.

 

For transparency I have worked for the Royal Mail typing in postcodes that the AI system couldn't read. A system that cist billions but was sh*t.

[Guest]

3 hours ago, Rufus Gwertigan said:

I watched the programme and it still leaves so many questions. I understand the law with the police and the CPS and there are checks and balances, but I don't understand that so many cases could be brought privately. Who monitors this. From the TV the people were not interviewed under the PACE act I.e. having recordings. 

What a shower of sh*t.

https://theweek.com/law/how-the-post-office-got-its-prosecution-powers#
 

I didn’t know either, the link might be helpful. 

[steviewevie]