news & politics:discussion

[Guest]

 

[steviewevie]

7 hours ago, Ozanne said:

 

Blimey. I guess what main stream press say does matter, they were mostly all critical, right?

[Guest]

35 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Blimey. I guess what main stream press say does matter, they were mostly all critical, right?

Pretty much. It was a political gamble by Johnson which so far appears to be backfiring, and this also looks like voters aren’t happy with the triple lock being broken either. We also have UC being cut as well, it could be a very difficult few weeks for him now. 

[Ryan1984]

22 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Pretty much. It was a political gamble by Johnson which so far appears to be backfiring, and this also looks like voters aren’t happy with the triple lock being broken either. We also have UC being cut as well, it could be a very difficult few weeks for him now. 

He’s not adverse to a u-turn though, is he? 😆

[steviewevie]

10 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said:

He’s not adverse to a u-turn though, is he? 😆

Yeah, rishi could suddenly find some extra cash before the oct budget meaning no need for a tax rise.

[steviewevie]

 

[Ryan1984]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

Yeah, rishi could suddenly find some extra cash before the oct budget meaning no need for a tax rise.

They’ll spin it like when they decided not to starve kids - “we listened to you” and all that.

[squirrelarmy]

2 hours ago, steviewevie said:

Yeah, rishi could suddenly find some extra cash before the oct budget meaning no need for a tax rise.

He could start by paying some more tax on his personal wealth. He would probably sort out the budget by himself. 

[maelzoid]

I think one of the reasons that people don't seem to oppose the NI rise is they don't understand how it will affect them. Someone - either Labour, or a sympathetic paper - needs to spell out the impact in a way that people understand.

For example, the 1.25% increase looks like this:

And next April when people see their wage packets decrease, they'll know for sure.

 

[steviewevie]

26 minutes ago, maelzoid said:

I think one of the reasons that people don't seem to oppose the NI rise is they don't understand how it will affect them. Someone - either Labour, or a sympathetic paper - needs to spell out the impact in a way that people understand.

For example, the 1.25% increase looks like this:

And next April when people see their wage packets decrease, they'll know for sure.

 

err...have you seen the polls?

[steviewevie]

12 hours ago, steviewevie said:

🙃

just realised that this poll is dated 3rd Sept...so err...hmmm....

[Guest]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

just realised that this poll is dated 3rd Sept...so err...hmmm....

That’s changes against the 3rd Sept poll, so this one will include the news this week. 

[steviewevie]

2 hours ago, Ozanne said:

That’s changes against the 3rd Sept poll, so this one will include the news this week. 

Ah. Silly me.

[steviewevie]

 

[Guest]

 

Another one showing Labour gains.

[steviewevie]

23 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

 

Another one showing Labour gains.

Obviously starmer is a brilliantly effective leader.

[Guest]

A clear trend now with several polls showing a narrowing after the government announcements from last week. 

[squirrelarmy]

Two things are going to happen now. 
 

Either massive U-Turns on everything or a massive distraction story will take over the news headlines for the next week or so

[Guest]

We have the COVID briefing tomorrow which could be used as a distraction. However the cut to UC will be a massive story and impact quite a few people as well.

[steviewevie]

40 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

Two things are going to happen now. 
 

Either massive U-Turns on everything or a massive distraction story will take over the news headlines for the next week or so

I can definitely see a u-turn happening on the universal credit thing, but we shall see. Maybe it's good to get all the bad stuff out of the way now, still a few years away from an election.

[Gingerfish79]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/13/keir-starmer-jeremy-corbyn-suspension?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
makes for interesting/concerning reading 

[Ryan1984]

 

[steviewevie]

41 minutes ago, Gingerfish79 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/13/keir-starmer-jeremy-corbyn-suspension?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
makes for interesting/concerning reading 

By Len McCluskey.

[squirrelarmy]

44 minutes ago, Gingerfish79 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/13/keir-starmer-jeremy-corbyn-suspension?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
makes for interesting/concerning reading 

Interesting timing. Why has this story been brought up again now. 

[mattiloy]

20 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

Interesting timing. Why has this story been brought up again now. 

Lens got a book out.

That Starmer is a slithery 🐍 is not news though, this was known to be the case at the time. Bit of extra lighter fluid to keep things ticking over until conference anyway. Unless they vet the audience, I reckon the fat controller will get booed off during his speech.