news & politics:discussion

[steviewevie]

3 minutes ago, gfa said:

Both leaders are very opposed to it. I think all Class Bs instead of just weed is an interesting approach which could slow down decriminalisation in general. Definitely a positive step

yeah, agreed.

Probably not a vote winner across the country though which is why they won't go near it.

[Guest]

24 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

I mean...it's all bollocks...he's just trying to set out a theme and get in the news a bit I guess...but there aren't going to be any actual policies until closer to the next election.

To be fair they have given some policies back at Conference and now he’s set out a broader vision for the country which is what some people were asking for. Take the policy regarding investment into climate change that would then create new jobs and thus give people security etc etc.

The tone was also important. Setting out the party as ones that can look ahead unlike the Tories who aren’t able/willing to do so. 

[zahidf]

Prince of hearts

 

[zahidf]

3 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

Starmer and Prince Andrew battle it out for who is having the worse day 🙂

Amazingly Boris flying on a Covid high it would seem...

Ha lol. I disagree about you on Starmer. He did fine and most people won't care if he stumbles a bit. A Nonce trying to let his lawyer get other nonces off is clearly worse

[Guest]

Interesting view from John McDonnell, I get his point about recognition of throes policies but it’s encouraging to see some support from him and highlighting what some of those policies are. 

[steviewevie]

New Statesman's Stephen Bush on what Starmer is trying to tell us...

"The British economy produces too many bad jobs, grows at a sluggish pace and is contributing to the destruction of our climate. The levers that a Labour government would pull to fix that would be to much more tightly regulate the labour market, to increase trade union power, and to use the UK’s borrowing capacity to invest in new green infrastructure and research projects."

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

New Statesman's Stephen Bush on what Starmer is trying to tell us...

"The British economy produces too many bad jobs, grows at a sluggish pace and is contributing to the destruction of our climate. The levers that a Labour government would pull to fix that would be to much more tightly regulate the labour market, to increase trade union power, and to use the UK’s borrowing capacity to invest in new green infrastructure and research projects."

You can see what they are trying to put together, those measures all sound like they would benefit the country and be a marked improvement from the Tory offering. 

[mattiloy]

Just seen Starmer has had a crack at the final glastonbury 2022 lineup poster

[steviewevie]

7 minutes ago, mattiloy said:

Just seen Starmer has had a crack at the final glastonbury 2022 lineup poster

Looks good.

[steviewevie]

15 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

The British Economy has always needed more unions...  lmao. That will win over middle England

 More union power, not more unions. 

Brave new world Baz...we going to hope that we get to net zero using market forces...or we going to invest in the economy to create green jobs with the trade unions having a bigger say because it would mean a radical reform of the labour market?

[steviewevie]

 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

 More union power, not more unions. 

Brave new world Baz...we going to hope that we get to net zero using market forces...or we going to invest in the economy to create green jobs with the trade unions having a bigger say because it would mean a radical reform of the labour market?

The last time the unions had more power, it didn't end very well if I recall.

[steviewevie]

24 minutes ago, Ommadawn said:

The last time the unions had more power, it didn't end very well if I recall.

Will be different this time. Promise.

[TheSheriff]

Watching the ITV Drama Anne this evening, so we get to the part where Blair and Straw continued the Establishment cover up of Hillsborough… Not the best look for Starmer when he was bigging  up Blair a couple of hours ago

Edited January 4, 2022 by TheSheriff
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[steviewevie]

35 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

Green technology good...

Unions bad...

Well, it is the labour party.

[Guest]

This sums up the press conference earlier.

 

[stuie]

25 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

This sums up the press conference earlier.

 

That's brilliant.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, steviewevie said:

Will be different this time. Promise.

I'll hold you to that 🙂

[Guest]

57 minutes ago, TheSheriff said:

Watching the ITV Drama Anne this evening, so we get to the part where Blair and Straw continued the Establishment cover up of Hillsborough… Not the best look for Starmer when he was bigging  up Blair a couple of hours ago

Wasn't Starmer Director of Public Prosecutions during that period?

[TheSheriff]

4 minutes ago, Ommadawn said:

Wasn't Starmer Director of Public Prosecutions during that period?

Not when New Labour ordered the “Scrutiny” reports in the late 90s 

[steviewevie]

Starmer has tested positive for covid...what a loser.

[JoeyT]

15 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Starmer has tested positive for covid...what a loser.

Positive twice and isolated 6 times. Needs to start being a bit more careful doesn't he? 👀

 

[steviewevie]

At least it will be less forensic lawer stuff and Rayner laying into Boris Tory Scum De Pfeffel Johnson..

[fred quimby]

16 hours ago, Barry Fish said:

wow - the point and you don't get along do they 🙂 

😀 was tongue in cheek comment. Should have put a smiley/winky in there

Edited January 5, 2022 by fred quimby

[steviewevie]

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