news & politics:discussion

[Neil]

4 minutes ago, mattiloy said:

I have buyers remorse. Starmer has been woeful, and I’ve enjoyed it because he’s a lying authoritarian toerag, so I’ve been quite happy to see him fail. But now he’s failing a bit too much and I’m getting worried he’s really fucked it.

he might have been a bit dull and shit, but anyone who thought it would be different hadn't been paying attention.

still, he's much better than the previous leader.

[Neil]

Labour will never strike deal with SNP, Keir Starmer to pledge

good move as that's possibly the ground the next election will be fought on.

[steviewevie]

5 minutes ago, Neil said:

Labour will never strike deal with SNP, Keir Starmer to pledge

good move as that's possibly the ground the next election will be fought on.

also probably a lie

[steviewevie]

34 minutes ago, lost said:

https://www.workersliberty.org/story/2020-02-19/rebecca-long-bailey-says-shes-zionist

 

JUDAS!

[steviewevie]

17 minutes ago, mattiloy said:

I have buyers remorse. Starmer has been woeful, and I’ve enjoyed it because he’s a lying authoritarian toerag, so I’ve been quite happy to see him fail. But now he’s failing a bit too much and I’m getting worried he’s really fucked it.

yes, we'll look back fondly at Starmer and what could have been.

[Neil]

Just now, steviewevie said:

also probably a lie

what do you think labour can gain out of a deal, if they did one, it only has negatives.

[lost]

I think you just have to reverse the question to get an answer i.e. How would a party whom appeared willing to form a coalition with a bunch of English nationalists do in Scotland?

[steviewevie]

13 minutes ago, Neil said:

what do you think labour can gain out of a deal, if they did one, it only has negatives.

Might be only way they can form a government. Offer a referendum, win referendum.

[Neil]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

Might be only way they can form a government. Offer a referendum, win referendum.

If its the only way to form a govt, that disappears as soon as Scottish mps cease to count at Westminster. Its a pathway to out of govt, not into it. 

[steviewevie]

Just now, Neil said:

If its the only way to form a govt, that disappears as soon as Scottish mps cease to count at Westminster. Its a pathway to out of govt, not into it. 

Yes, which is why they'd need to win that referendum.

[Guest]

30 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Might be only way they can form a government. Offer a referendum, win referendum.

No way. Labour will aim to form a minority government and essentially dare the SNP to vote down a Labour Queens Speech. 

[steviewevie]

13 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

No way. Labour will aim to form a minority government and essentially dare the SNP to vote down a Labour Queens Speech. 

Jessica agrees with you. I just think a minority govt won't last long...but maybe labour stand a better chance if don't give in to that evil sturgeon woman.

 

Edited July 1, 2022 by steviewevie

[Guest]

20 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Jessica agrees with you. I just think a minority govt won't last long...but maybe labour stand a better chance if don't give in to that evil sturgeon woman.

 

I’ve said before that I am a pioneering political commentator and this proves it…

[fraybentos1]

2 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

I’ve said before that I am a pioneering political commentator and this proves it…

You literally just read the article and lifted what the writer said and put it on here 🤣

[fraybentos1]

That would be a good move from Labour if true, don’t want a repeat of 2015. I think there’s a reasonable chance they don’t even need snp votes as they could get like 310 Seats or whatever plus Lib Dems on 25 odd

[steviewevie]

 

[Guest]

 

[Kurosagi]

Ouch, I don't remember a time when these kind of swings were so commonplace, even during the oft called 'mid-term blues':

 

[zahidf]

It's all Keirs fault

 

[zahidf]

"I'm told at this morning's Downing Street meeting Guto Harri told staff Chris Pincher was vulnerable and had lost his career, so they should all "think about how he feels" today"

[lost]

35 minutes ago, Kurosagi said:

Ouch, I don't remember a time when these kind of swings were so commonplace, even during the oft called 'mid-term blues':

Indeed the days of "My family have always vote so and so" seems to be in the past. Most of us are swing voters now.

[steviewevie]

14 minutes ago, lost said:

Indeed the days of "My family have always vote so and so" seems to be in the past. Most of us are swing voters now.

Well last election was all about getting Brexit done and keeping Corbyn out...and these by-elections seem to be all anti Boris

Edited July 1, 2022 by steviewevie

[Guest]

And here’s the late, inevitable u-turn. 

[efcfanwirral]

4 hours ago, steviewevie said:

 

I never even noticed the guy's name was Pincher and made a connection to the incident til I saw this tweet...

[steviewevie]

This sleaze thing is engulfing them.