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mattiloy Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 2 hours ago, steviewevie said: I like them (seagulls, not Tories) Good call. Up the seagulls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 14 minutes ago, steviewevie said: Narrator - ‘She isn’t authentic.’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus Gwertigan Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 After serious thought I think I will vote seagull in the next GE. At least they are honest in what they want and will grab it and maybe share it with the rest of its nest. Got a problem Putin? I'll peck your eyes out mate and eat your hotdog. Sorted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 Maybe seagulls are actually the shadowy elite running everything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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steviewevie Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 I didn't watch any of that hustings thing last night, but apparently Truss was much better, almost as if she knows she's going to win and that Sunak is not that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 It’s strange sometimes how a contest goes, Sunak at first in the debates performed the best in my mind but he’s lost it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary1979666 Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 54 minutes ago, Ozanne said: It’s strange sometimes how a contest goes, Sunak at first in the debates performed the best in my mind but he’s lost it now. I feel for him in a way, as he must know it's lost, but he has to go through the motions of it now. He won't want to drop out, as that looks like giving up and he hasn't really dropped a clanger like Leadsom did in 2016. He'll likely not get a good role in the new cabinet either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 New Statesman's latest podcast about Labour/Starmer/Forde/Tarry is worth a listen if you like that sort of thing... https://play.acast.com/s/newstatesman/from-the-forde-report-to-strikes-is-labour-still-divided Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattiloy Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 (edited) I’m noticing a lot of Lib commentators, the likes of James O’Brien, starting to talk up nationalisation of energy as if they just invented the idea whilst *almost slagging off Starmer for not backing proper wage rises for workers. And you know what, fine, all for personal growth. But it is quite remarkable. Maybe it takes things getting really shit to make the libs realise that just because they did alright, that in fact the unfettered market doesn’t actually work. Edited July 29, 2022 by mattiloy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 I think Germany will crack this winter and try to get the rest of the west to agree to the carving up of Ukraine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 18 minutes ago, steviewevie said: New Statesman's latest podcast about Labour/Starmer/Forde/Tarry is worth a listen if you like that sort of thing... https://play.acast.com/s/newstatesman/from-the-forde-report-to-strikes-is-labour-still-divided Of course Labour is divided to an extent, every organisation is. However they seem the most united they have in a long time although there is still progress to be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 13 minutes ago, lost said: I think Germany will crack this winter and try to get the rest of the west to agree to the carving up of Ukraine. Yes, can see this too...just have to see. Going to be hard for europe to stay united on this...especially as war seems to be mostly stalling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 23 minutes ago, lost said: I think Germany will crack this winter and try to get the rest of the west to agree to the carving up of Ukraine. Maybe they will do a deal to stop some sanctions if Russia switches on the taps and allows food exports etc...but not a specific deal on Ukraine and west will continue to supply arms to Ukraine. Not sure if that could be done... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 Soaring like Keir soars in my heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rufus Gwertigan Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 3 hours ago, steviewevie said: This could work well for Labour if Starmer keeps his promise to get rid of the Lords or at least have some radical reformation. The Lords are not very popular as it is and this will make them look even more corrupt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 It's all over Rishi. In Liz we Truss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punksnotdead Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, steviewevie said: It's all over Rishi. In Liz we Truss. So it turns out Tom was a c**t all along - not that surprising I suppose - he is a Tory after all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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steviewevie Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 so...seeing as there's a good chance that labour will just fight with itself, something they're very good at, whereas tories are so good at masking divisions and winning elections...the choice for next PM for the forseeable is probably either Sunak or Truss...and I am starting to lean more towards preferring Truss as PM...she may be a bit mad and erratic, and we'll likely see brexit bollocks and culture wars bubbling away to keep the base happy, and union/worker/human rights will be further diminished and public services will be further starved of much needed funding...but at least I won't have to pay so much tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 38 minutes ago, steviewevie said: so...seeing as there's a good chance that labour will just fight with itself, something they're very good at, whereas tories are so good at masking divisions and winning elections...the choice for next PM for the forseeable is probably either Sunak or Truss...and I am starting to lean more towards preferring Truss as PM...she may be a bit mad and erratic, and we'll likely see brexit bollocks and culture wars bubbling away to keep the base happy, and union/worker/human rights will be further diminished and public services will be further starved of much needed funding...but at least I won't have to pay so much tax. Are Labour really fighting with itself? There are always disagreement but it doesn't feel like the Corbyn years. The PLP is pretty united and while those looking for a fight can be noisy (and tweet a lot) I am not convinced they are making much impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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