news & politics:discussion

[steviewevie]

18 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Apparently Truss has sacked Shapps!

away from the Shapps thing (not exactly a new thing in politics choosing loyalty over competence) that is a pretty interesting article of what the dream team around Truss are cooking up.

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

red wall...wherever the fuck that is...

 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, philipsteak said:

2 weeks ago

Oh 😂 it seemed like it was happening now.

[Guest]

Really focusing on the important policies.

Edited September 21, 2022 by Ozanne

[steviewevie]

8 hours ago, Ozanne said:

Really focusing on the important policies.

why do that? For Growth? To piss off woolly green lefties? I'm sure this will piss off many Conservative voters too. I don't get it.

[steviewevie]

social attitudes national poll...all with some nice uplifting music as we all become more liberal/left/woke/indy...

 

[Neil]

5 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

social attitudes national poll...all with some nice uplifting music as we all become more liberal/left/woke/indy...

 

these are always interesting, for how little difference there are in attitudes in scotland that likes to believe it has very different views.

[steviewevie]

6 minutes ago, Neil said:

these are always interesting, for how little difference there are in attitudes in scotland that likes to believe it has very different views.

% wanting indepence has increased substantially over last few decades...granted Johnson was still in power for latest one...

Edited September 22, 2022 by steviewevie

[Neil]

Just now, steviewevie said:

% wanting indepence has increased each year this poll carried out...granted Johnson was still in power for this one...

scots used to say they wanted independence because they had different views, this survey normally shows they don't have different views.

[steviewevie]

5 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

% wanting indepence has increased substantially over last few decades...granted Johnson was still in power for latest one...

actually kind of started rising in 2015...and then came brexit...and then Johnson...

If the attempt on referendum etc fails over next few years I think Sturgeon will quit, and that will be a big loss for SNP.

[Neil]

16 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

actually kind of started rising in 2015...and then came brexit...and then Johnson...

If the attempt on referendum etc fails over next few years I think Sturgeon will quit, and that will be a big loss for SNP.

so many claimed Johnson was going to be the final factor, hasn't happened.

[Justiceforcedave]

50 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

why do that? For Growth? To piss off woolly green lefties? I'm sure this will piss off many Conservative voters too. I don't get it.

She's pissing off as many people as possible so they beg for Johnson to make his return. It was the plan all along 😂

[Guest]

14 minutes ago, Justiceforcedave said:

She's pissing off as many people as possible so they beg for Johnson to make his return. It was the plan all along 😂

It’s either that or she actually believes this stuff is the right thing to do!? Scary hey. 

[Neil]

11 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

It’s either that or she actually believes this stuff is the right thing to do!? Scary hey. 

i get the idea that she thinks she continuing with spaffer's mandate. 

[Guest]

16 minutes ago, Neil said:

i get the idea that she thinks she continuing with spaffer's mandate. 

I mentioned this the other day but she doesn’t have a mandate as none of this was in the 2019 manifesto. This is the peril of changing leader and not having an election. 

[Neil]

3 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

I mentioned this the other day but she doesn’t have a mandate as none of this was in the 2019 manifesto. This is the peril of changing leader and not having an election. 

improving things was the mandate, she thinks this stuff will improve things.

[Guest]

20 minutes ago, Neil said:

improving things was the mandate, she thinks this stuff will improve things.

That’s very wishy washy 😂 they can’t just saying ‘improving things’ is their manifesto and expect it to give them carte blanche to do what they want. 

[Neil]

14 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

That’s very wishy washy 😂 they can’t just saying ‘improving things’ is their manifesto and expect it to give them carte blanche to do what they want. 

Looks like they can they're doing it. 

[Rufus Gwertigan]

Founder of Cuadrilla says fracking won't work in the UK.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/sep/21/fracking-wont-work-uk-founder-chris-cornelius-cuadrilla

Where does this put Rees Smog and Truss 

[steviewevie]

7 minutes ago, Rufus Gwertigan said:

Founder of Cuadrilla says fracking won't work in the UK.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/sep/21/fracking-wont-work-uk-founder-chris-cornelius-cuadrilla

Where does this put Rees Smog and Truss 

 

[steviewevie]

if nimbys don't want wind turbines or solar farms or new housing then not sure they're going to want fracking either.

[steviewevie]

I they still doing this budget thing without an OBR forecast tomorrow?

[Rufus Gwertigan]

Just now, steviewevie said:

if nimbys don't want wind turbines or solar farms or new housing then not sure they're going to want fracking either.

I researched this at Uni and I came to the conclusion that if you offer locals reduced bills they will get on board I helped a friend on his thesis and he came to the same conclusion with a wind farm. I won't either on about energy policy but local ownership could be a thing.

 

[Neil]

28 minutes ago, Rufus Gwertigan said:

Founder of Cuadrilla says fracking won't work in the UK.

i knew that even if the govt didn't.