news & politics:discussion

[steviewevie]

If labour get into power they won't have any money to spend.

[Neil]

5 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Some on the left didn't like the eu whatever corbyn thought. He still campaigned to remain, and most of the younger people who joined labour because of corbyn also wanted remain..it is the older union types who wanted out.

he barely  campaigned for rewmain, he said vote remain but the eu is awful.

[Neil]

in jhapan they're protesting about the expense of a state funeral, they aren'[t queuing up to endorse it.

[lost]

Suggestions someone has bombed the nord stream pipelines under the sea. Gas bubbles 100m wide reaching the surface.

[Neil]

Starmer is going to promise the growth impossible and leave everyone disappointed with a Labour Govt. 

[steviewevie]

13 minutes ago, Neil said:

he barely  campaigned for rewmain, he said vote remain but the eu is awful.

no he didn't.

[steviewevie]

10 minutes ago, lost said:

Suggestions someone has bombed the nord stream pipelines under the sea. Gas bubbles 100m wide reaching the surface.

Who would do that?

[steviewevie]

Starmer speech soon. So exciting. Will people be shouting c**t at him like last time?

[Neil]

His first speech for the eu referendum was an embarrassment: it didn't get better. 

[Neil]

7 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Starmer speech soon. So exciting. Will people be shouting c**t at him like last time?

They should shout idiot at him because he's trying to compete with the tories with growth. 

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, Neil said:

His first speech for the eu referendum was an embarrassment: it didn't get better. 

yeah, but he didn't say eu was awful. Maybe he could have been more enthusiastic, but he wasn't leader of the remain camp, he was leader of Labour.

[steviewevie]

5 minutes ago, Neil said:

They should shout idiot at him because he's trying to compete with the tories with growth. 

what's he going to say, "Vote Labour if you don't want growth!"?

(although from an environmental point of view maybe no growth is better?)

[Neil]

Just now, steviewevie said:

what's he going to say, "Vote Labour if you don't want growth!"?

(although from an environmental point of view maybe no growth is better?)

His whole speech is going to be about promising growth. There's no way to guarantee it'll happen, most recent govts have promised growth and failed to deliver it, Cos no one knows how to make it happen!

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, Neil said:

His whole speech is going to be about promising growth. There's no way to guarantee it'll happen, most recent govts have promised growth and failed to deliver it, Cos no one knows how to make it happen!

yeah, any growth will probably be out of control of govt...international situation etc. But still...

[Neil]

5 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

yeah, but he didn't say eu was awful. Maybe he could have been more enthusiastic, but he wasn't leader of the remain camp, he was leader of Labour.

He pretty much did say the EU was awful, that first speec was embarrassing. And as leader of the opposition he should have been leading the opposition. Not saying "it's ok to vote leave"

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, Neil said:

He pretty much did say the EU was awful, that first speec was embarrassing. And as leader of the opposition he should have been leading the opposition. Not saying "it's ok to vote leave"

the govt were behind remain...so he wasn't really opposing.

[steviewevie]

Anyway...Sir Keith is on. He's done the diamond gooner geezer thing, he's done hillsborough, he's done the queue..now the shit state of everything under a tory govt.

[steviewevie]

a few shit lines...everyone claps. He's still not that good at these speeches, but I guess you've got it or you haven't, and he hasn't. Nor has Truss.

[steviewevie]

Starmer doing the aspiration thing...

[Neil]

8 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

the govt were behind remain...so he wasn't really opposing.

Tories wanted Brexit, Corbyn should have opposed it.

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, Neil said:

Tories wanted Brexit, Corbyn should have opposed it.

Some tories wanted brexit, as did some in labour. The govt campaigned for remain.

[steviewevie]

Big round of applause for support for Ukraine.

[steviewevie]

Another big round of applause for sorting out antisemitism.

Can't hear any protests.

[steviewevie]

Country first, party second.

God Save The King.

[steviewevie]

I think Starmer is ticking all the boxes in this speech....lots of stuff in there for clips on the news later.