news & politics:discussion

[Neil]

31 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

What was he saying?

tbon radio4 that every problem is a global problem, not fuck-ups by the tories.

[steviewevie]

44 minutes ago, Neil said:

tbon radio4 that every problem is a global problem, not fuck-ups by the tories.

all very well to blame energy crisis on Russia and covid etc., but it was the sudden load of unfunded tax rises and lack of evidence that this will lead to growth that screwed everything up.

[Neil]

14 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

all very well to blame energy crisis on

the free market will fix everything.

[Neil]

21 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

Hoping for nuclear war has to be one of the most desperate things you will ever hear.

tories gotta be tories.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Neil said:

tbon radio4 that every problem is a global problem, not fuck-ups by the tories.

I got told off for pointing this tactic out last week 😉

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

They're in a bit of a pickle...doesn't look good to get rid of her so soon and have yet another leadership election and a new PM....but the polling is a disaster for Truss and her government, all credibility destroyed in that budget and what came after.

[Neil]

Just now, steviewevie said:

They're in a bit of a pickle...doesn't look good to get rid of her so soon and have yet another leadership election and a new PM....but the polling is a disaster for Truss and her government, all credibility destroyed in that budget and what came after.

the damage will compound over the next year or so, cos anyone paying more for their mortgage than they were expecting will blame the tories.

[lost]

I'd have one eye on the US election at the end of 2024. You'd of thought the Democrats would of wanted to go into an election during an interest rate cutting cycle as the best way of beating Trump. If that weakens the dollar a bit I would of thought the Tories would want to match our cycle to theirs as closely as possible.

[steviewevie]

Truss can hope that the economy picks up, maybe Russia Ukraine situation resolves, things are improving by 2024...but things were improving when Blair won that landslide in 97...

[fraybentos1]

6 minutes ago, lost said:

I'd have one eye on the US election at the end of 2024. You'd of thought the Democrats would of wanted to go into an election during an interest rate cutting cycle as the best way of beating Trump. If that weakens the dollar a bit I would of thought the Tories would want to match our cycle to theirs as closely as possible.

Doubt this mob will still be here by late 2024, likely an election before then.

[Guest]

The economy had recovered and was booming by the 97 election but it didn’t save him. His reputation was ruined by the Black Wednesday and the UK coming out of the ERM. Voters don’t forget so easily and even if things were going to get so much better it probably won’t save her. 

Edited October 5, 2022 by Ozanne

[steviewevie]

6 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Truss can hope that the economy picks up, maybe Russia Ukraine situation resolves, things are improving by 2024...but things were improving when Blair won that landslide in 97...

But Starmer isn't Blair (and it isn't 97).

[steviewevie]

Truss' speech going to be short and sweet apparently, not sure on the sweet bit.

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

But Starmer isn't Blair (and it isn't 97).

Equally Truss isn’t Major and this economic crisis has been caused directly by the Tories. 

[steviewevie]

5 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Equally Truss isn’t Major and this economic crisis has been caused directly by the Tories. 

Although they are playing Moving On Up which is very 97 (well, maybe a bit earlier)

[steviewevie]

They love her. Honest.

[steviewevie]

she needs to make the autocue read thing more natural...

[steviewevie]

there it is...virtue signalling.

[steviewevie]

we're learning about Liz. She's from the slums of Leeds or something, went to something called a comprehensive the poor thing. Thank goodness for her family who were nice people, not like all the other scumbags.

[steviewevie]

Greenpeace! Briliiant.

[steviewevie]

Booo...Greenpeace...smelly hippies....booo...we love Liz and low tax and fracking!

[steviewevie]

ooh. Might join the anti growh coaltion.

She's going on about the shittiness she saw growing up in slumland, nothing to eat except drugs, terrible everything...they called it Thatcher's Britain.

[Punksnotdead]

A c**t talking to a room full of c**ts! Think I'll give it a miss thanks!

[steviewevie]

here we go...low taxes...run on the pound...